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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 360733" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>This morning on C-Span 2 was a program on Book-TV that presented Robert Zubrin and his book Energy Victory. I only caught less than half of the latter part of the program but it was rather interesting as to the ideas posed. Yes, those ideas were gov't interventions somewhat for those who think we should go due haste down that road but the overall discussion was worthwhile still IMO. </p><p> </p><p>Here's the link to Zubrin's website with more info and the C-Span link too.</p><p><a href="http://www.energyvictory.net/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red"><strong>http://www.energyvictory.net/</strong></span></a></p><p> </p><p>UPSlifer,</p><p> </p><p>Gee, you are so right about the economic policies of Nixon having absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the economics of the Carter years. I feel so much better knowing now that on the day that McCain or Obama is sworn in that the chaos of our economy caused by piss poor management and the massive debt borrowing and inflating the money supply will just disappear into thin air and that whatever ills either of these men have to deal with, will be all created on their own. I feel so much better.</p><p> </p><p>Does this also mean that the good economy of Clinton was all Clinton and no one else? According to your theory, we should get him back in office!</p><p> </p><p>I guess the chaos of Social Security was created last week and had nothing to do with policy over the last 70 plus years as to what Congress did with the money.</p><p> </p><p>Hey, wait a minute, that doesn't work. There was this idiot called Jim Kelly, who got the bright idea to take a stock public. It made no sense that the stock had done very well on it's own for decades, made even the lowest level UPSer a millionaire and allowed the company to do what it saw fit to do or the customer demanded of us to do. Instead, the decision was made to go public and now the days of a young supervisor <strong>"PARTNER"</strong> making his place in the sun are gone <strong>(Hey but I got mine, RIGHT?)</strong> we no longer answer to the customer but rather some Wall Street Analyst and last and the best of all, pre-public historical stock price trends when compared to the post private era are conclusive beyond doubt that remaining private was by far the much smarter course of action. Even Eskew on the History Channel's "History's Business" admitted point blank that going public was the worse decision made during his entire career.</p><p> </p><p>But hey, I'll go to work on Monday knowing that the Kelly decison in 99' has absolutely no effect whatsoever with what we do or how we do it today at UPS! So sayeth UPSlifer!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 360733, member: 2189"] This morning on C-Span 2 was a program on Book-TV that presented Robert Zubrin and his book Energy Victory. I only caught less than half of the latter part of the program but it was rather interesting as to the ideas posed. Yes, those ideas were gov't interventions somewhat for those who think we should go due haste down that road but the overall discussion was worthwhile still IMO. Here's the link to Zubrin's website with more info and the C-Span link too. [URL="http://www.energyvictory.net/"][COLOR=red][B]http://www.energyvictory.net/[/B][/COLOR][/URL] UPSlifer, Gee, you are so right about the economic policies of Nixon having absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the economics of the Carter years. I feel so much better knowing now that on the day that McCain or Obama is sworn in that the chaos of our economy caused by piss poor management and the massive debt borrowing and inflating the money supply will just disappear into thin air and that whatever ills either of these men have to deal with, will be all created on their own. I feel so much better. Does this also mean that the good economy of Clinton was all Clinton and no one else? According to your theory, we should get him back in office! I guess the chaos of Social Security was created last week and had nothing to do with policy over the last 70 plus years as to what Congress did with the money. Hey, wait a minute, that doesn't work. There was this idiot called Jim Kelly, who got the bright idea to take a stock public. It made no sense that the stock had done very well on it's own for decades, made even the lowest level UPSer a millionaire and allowed the company to do what it saw fit to do or the customer demanded of us to do. Instead, the decision was made to go public and now the days of a young supervisor [B]"PARTNER"[/B] making his place in the sun are gone [B](Hey but I got mine, RIGHT?)[/B] we no longer answer to the customer but rather some Wall Street Analyst and last and the best of all, pre-public historical stock price trends when compared to the post private era are conclusive beyond doubt that remaining private was by far the much smarter course of action. Even Eskew on the History Channel's "History's Business" admitted point blank that going public was the worse decision made during his entire career. But hey, I'll go to work on Monday knowing that the Kelly decison in 99' has absolutely no effect whatsoever with what we do or how we do it today at UPS! So sayeth UPSlifer! [/QUOTE]
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