On car sup/Driver Question

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by HULKAMANIA, Jul 23, 2012.

  1. HULKAMANIA

    HULKAMANIA Member

    If the On car has to run a route, and you are the bottom guy in the center can he choose what route he wants to run over you? Its my understanding that the driver gets to choose first but you know how they like to make rules up as they go.
     
  2. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    Not sure what the "rules" are, but in my center they'd take a sweet route, and give you the crap one
     
  3. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    That's the rule I remember!
    It's right up there with Double Standards.
     
  4. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    He has no seniority, you do, therefore you should be allowed to choose. Unfortunately, you also have to work as directed. So...if he "bumps" you, you need to file a grievance for (a) the fact that he did bargaining unit work and (b) that the applicable route-bidding language for your center was not followed. If you arent willing to follow through and file on it, you dont have the right to complain about it.
     
  5. cino321

    cino321 Active Member

    In our local supplement, there is language that allows UPS to cite "operating needs of the company." So in the rare case that they have exhausted all means and sups are pulling loads they can force you to pull a certain route. Whether you finish the route or not, is another story.
     
  6. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    I'm so glad I'm fortunate enough to work in a good strong local.
     
  7. HULKAMANIA

    HULKAMANIA Member

    407 I think you and I are in the same local. Can you please tell me what the rules are for us? I will do things at times when something is needed of me, but when Im being taken advantage of Im tired of it.
     
  8. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member

    File for seniority and for him working, that should help you next time.
     
  9. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    If you are in my local then there is a specific number of bid coverage drivers. Anyone who is not a bid coverage driver works as directed. If a sup goes out on a route by himself a grievence needs to be filed. If you are in my building I know for sure that a sup will not take out a route by himself unless there is some kind of extenuating circumstances that the manager will let me know about. Then it will be up to me what needs to be done to rectify the situation.
     
  10. HULKAMANIA

    HULKAMANIA Member

    407 I tried to pm you back but you dont allow it lol.
     
  11. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Work as directed and file on the sup working just to make sure they exhausted all means available.
     
  12. cino321

    cino321 Active Member

    Where I'm from the sups always exhaust all means before they pull a route. Not because they want to do the right thing, but because they're lazy and don't want to deliver. If they do pull a route, they almost always take a part timer as a helper with them that day.
     
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    They take a PTer not because they want to but because they have to. As far as "because they're lazy and don't want to deliver", their job is to supervise, not deliver, and their job will be sitting there waiting for them after the come off the road that day.
     
  14. HULKAMANIA

    HULKAMANIA Member

    Ok heres the thing. He does go out with a seasonal, however he likes to pick and choose what route he and the seasonal will take over me, and I just dont think thats right. Neither one of them have seniority imo. Now if he was putting him on the training route and that said bid driver was bumping me then I understand but the way this is working to me just isnt right. Am I wrong?
     
  15. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Technically no but why don't you cut the sup a break---he may be choosing the route he feels most comfortable with. Keep in mind that his work does not end when he parks the pkg car.
     
  16. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    We are definitely not in th same local you are like eight states away. Are you in the central region?
     
  17. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    The sups workload would not be my concern. He chose to go into management, and if they dont want to be out on car running routes then they need to adequately staff the operation. He can take a PT employee with him to use as a helper (which he is contractually required to do anyway), whereas I would out there busting my ass on some garbage route by myself.
     
  18. Buck Fifty

    Buck Fifty New Member

    Go out there and bust their A** on some over-allowed. Make them pay is what I say.
     
  19. whiskers

    whiskers Member

    Is this in the nat. master agreement, or in your local rider? I ask because I've never seen a sup take a PTer to jump for them.
     
  20. Coldworld

    Coldworld Well-Known Member


    yep..they rather be in the jump seat on a ojs with that bullshi7 clip board trying to be the man...most of these guys ARE lazy pos...not all but most of the ones I know..