helenofcalifornia
Well-Known Member
Oh no!!! Danny is starting to say "hmmm" too!
10 minutes straightening,cleaning,loading,sorting,setting up,getting supplies,finding totes,hand carts,getting call tags,air manifests,filling out CSA tests,helper info, etc. before start times adds up to this:
50 min per week free labor
210 min. (3.5 hrs.) per month free labor = $ 99.89
2520 min (42 hrs.) per year free labor = $1198.68
So you are basically working an entire week for free by spending 10 minutes a day working before start time. Why would you give a thousand dollars back to UPS? There are those who "get it" and those who don't. Which one are you?
Normally I show up less than 5 minutes before start time. Often only 2 or 3 minutes before start time and never touch a package before I clock in. However, I'm on a new junk route until x-mas . Today I showed up 10 minutes early, put my crap in my truck and checked out my first shelf before I went to PCM. After PCM I did a little sorting then took off. This time of year I'll gladly give away a few minutes a day if it makes the day less stressfull because no matter what we are working late and totally screwed.
I agree with what you have said in part.Seems I read in an earlier thread that if someone is working "off the clock", that it could be grieved by anyone to receive the pay that the person is forfeiting by doing so.
Not sure of the validity of this....but it would surely go a long way in getting these people out of the trucks before their start time.
I, at one time, was guilty of doing the same. But in reflection, I'm guessing it did more harm than good. If you think of it from a loaders' perspective, it could make them feel that you're just, by your action, saying that they suck as a loader. And if they suck....why even try when you are going to go in and "straighten" everything they just did? They have no incentive to do a better job. As a matter of fact they will just get lazy and pitch the stuff in anywhere because they know you will put it where it belongs.
Sorting your vehicle before start time is a habit that's hard to break. I know! But most loaders will ultimately do a good job when given a chance. Communicating any load problems with them,along with praise for a good job, will help you while on the clock and make them feel better about the job they are doing for you.
Try it!........it just might work!
\With all these drivers that apparently are working off the clock, where are all the stewards for these drivers at? Why aren't these stewards raising 9 kinds of hell at these centers?
And another point to yours Steve, we can only work 12 hrs a day, if we go over that we have to mgt approval. We can not under any circumstances go over 14 hrs a day. If you are losing 10-30 mins a day by working off the clock that could easily give you a short day on fri because of the 60 hr rule.And that's just at 10 minutes in the morning, some spend way more time. How much money are you losing???
And if we are working late anyways, why bother? You'll reap the benefit of waiting till on the clock, at the end of the week.
I am also a cover driver and when they change the work around on my truck or put me somewhere that I'm not too familiar with, I NEED to go through my car, if nothing else look at what's on the floor so when I'm at stops and there's a package down there, I will hopefully remember. In the future, when I'm a full time driver with my own route, I will try to change my habits regarding sorting off the clock. You all bring up an interesting idea of waiting until start time, and THEN organizing my truck. I guess it would only work if you weren't slammed on airs.Have any of you actually changed your start times to reflect coming in early and sorting ??? I have. If I'm doing certain routes then I show up early, punch in and sort on the clock. I'm a cover driver and my load quality will often dictate if I sink or swim. Also, have some of the people who sort off the clock thought about just sorting on the clock after PCM ???? I've seen many drivers in my center stay as long as 30 minutes after PCM to make sure their trucks are loaded properly before they leave. I generally don't touch a package off the clock but it does happen every once in a while depending on what I've got going on or if I NEED to be done early for something.
I am also a cover driver and when they change the work around on my truck or put me somewhere that I'm not too familiar with, I NEED to go through my car, if nothing else look at what's on the floor so when I'm at stops and there's a package down there, I will hopefully remember. In the future, when I'm a full time driver with my own route, I will try to change my habits regarding sorting off the clock. You all bring up an interesting idea of waiting until start time, and THEN organizing my truck. I guess it would only work if you weren't slammed on airs.