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"On Topic" "Blame The Worker" Behavior Based Safety or Not?
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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3810929" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>If UPS didn't accept packages packed in accordance with our guidelines, our volume would decrease drastically. Have you ever processed a damage claim? Do you even know that cardboard boxes have seals printed on them that indicate weight capacity and burst strength? Do you know how many damaged packages were too heavy for the box they were packed into? Did you know UPS requires 2" of packaging material between the contents and the box? How many packages actually meet those requirements? How are drivers supposed to know if a package was packed properly or not in order to reject it?</p><p></p><p>Did you know that loading packages over 40lbs at or above shoulder height is unsafe and not methods?</p><p></p><p>I won't speak to what "management wants", I know that I accept responsibility for my own safety, and sometimes methods developed as a one-size-fits-all solution to safety are not, in fact, safe for everyone.</p><p></p><p>I think you need to really define who the company is for when you talk about assigning blame. Guess what, I am UPS, managers are UPS, PT Sups are UPS, corporate is UPS. By definition, when it comes to damage claims, there are only two parties who can take responsibility, the shipper and UPS. I will give you an assignment, design a system for rejecting all improperly packaged volume from ever being picked up, then I will agree that UPS would be responsible for all damaged packages within their system.</p><p></p><p>As for the original question, there are two parties involved in the case as you described, the employee and the employer. The employer is almost always culpable for any injury occurring on their property. If another employee caused the injury, that employee represents the company, and the company is culpable. Even if the injured employee caused the injury, the company can still be culpable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3810929, member: 63706"] If UPS didn't accept packages packed in accordance with our guidelines, our volume would decrease drastically. Have you ever processed a damage claim? Do you even know that cardboard boxes have seals printed on them that indicate weight capacity and burst strength? Do you know how many damaged packages were too heavy for the box they were packed into? Did you know UPS requires 2" of packaging material between the contents and the box? How many packages actually meet those requirements? How are drivers supposed to know if a package was packed properly or not in order to reject it? Did you know that loading packages over 40lbs at or above shoulder height is unsafe and not methods? I won't speak to what "management wants", I know that I accept responsibility for my own safety, and sometimes methods developed as a one-size-fits-all solution to safety are not, in fact, safe for everyone. I think you need to really define who the company is for when you talk about assigning blame. Guess what, I am UPS, managers are UPS, PT Sups are UPS, corporate is UPS. By definition, when it comes to damage claims, there are only two parties who can take responsibility, the shipper and UPS. I will give you an assignment, design a system for rejecting all improperly packaged volume from ever being picked up, then I will agree that UPS would be responsible for all damaged packages within their system. As for the original question, there are two parties involved in the case as you described, the employee and the employer. The employer is almost always culpable for any injury occurring on their property. If another employee caused the injury, that employee represents the company, and the company is culpable. Even if the injured employee caused the injury, the company can still be culpable. [/QUOTE]
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