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<blockquote data-quote="trplnkl" data-source="post: 797491" data-attributes="member: 13254"><p>I believe that many do want the same rights and benefits as straight couples and those who do deserve that. However I also believe there is some validity to what Baba posted <span style="color: dimgray">(The gay idea of marriage has less to do with fidelity, and more to do with social legitimization. And *because* it has less to do with fidelity, sanctioning gay marriage results in the degradation of marriage, because gay marriage won't emphasize the most important parts of marriage - fidelity and a healthy, consistent environment for childhood development.)</span></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't know how to come up with any proof or statistics on the stability of gay relationships. Over the years I have known many gay people, both men and women and for the most part mostly women, I have yet to encounter, on a social status, a male couple of long standing, the men seemed to be "dating" or looking for the next party. I do have to admit that the social stigma in this area may have well kept most of the gay men out of public view. </p><p>Within the female couples I have known, maybe 1% were of a long term committed relationship (most lasted less than a year) . One thing I did notice and watched for several years was that when a lesbian couple would break up they remained friends and continued to hang out with their past mates and their new mates, giving a revolving door appearance.</p><p> I understand and respect your opinion on the government having a part in deciding who can and can't be married. However without some kind of control and some kind of standard, the organizations that administer the benefits that gays seek the rights to will grant no rights to anyone. I believe there are ways to acquire the rights and benefits that they seek without being married. Civil unions could resolve the rights/benefits situation and could also address the responsibilities that go along. Why is the idea of civil unions NOT acceptable to the gay community?</p><p></p><p>BTW your "homophobic bigots" card is worn and frayed, put it back in your pocket.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="trplnkl, post: 797491, member: 13254"] I believe that many do want the same rights and benefits as straight couples and those who do deserve that. However I also believe there is some validity to what Baba posted [COLOR=dimgray](The gay idea of marriage has less to do with fidelity, and more to do with social legitimization. And *because* it has less to do with fidelity, sanctioning gay marriage results in the degradation of marriage, because gay marriage won't emphasize the most important parts of marriage - fidelity and a healthy, consistent environment for childhood development.)[/COLOR] I wouldn't know how to come up with any proof or statistics on the stability of gay relationships. Over the years I have known many gay people, both men and women and for the most part mostly women, I have yet to encounter, on a social status, a male couple of long standing, the men seemed to be "dating" or looking for the next party. I do have to admit that the social stigma in this area may have well kept most of the gay men out of public view. Within the female couples I have known, maybe 1% were of a long term committed relationship (most lasted less than a year) . One thing I did notice and watched for several years was that when a lesbian couple would break up they remained friends and continued to hang out with their past mates and their new mates, giving a revolving door appearance. I understand and respect your opinion on the government having a part in deciding who can and can't be married. However without some kind of control and some kind of standard, the organizations that administer the benefits that gays seek the rights to will grant no rights to anyone. I believe there are ways to acquire the rights and benefits that they seek without being married. Civil unions could resolve the rights/benefits situation and could also address the responsibilities that go along. Why is the idea of civil unions NOT acceptable to the gay community? BTW your "homophobic bigots" card is worn and frayed, put it back in your pocket. [/QUOTE]
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