ORION and cheaper fuel

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Brown287, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

    So as anyone who has had the pleasure of being on Orion can tell you, it's not at all the success that UPS has lead people to believe. So with that said we can in some cases, not all, say that there has been a moderate reduction in mileage. Well from what I've seen that reduction has come at a cost of lower SPORH and an enormous increase in residential backs, which as we all know are our number one accident.
    So my question then, is there a threshold that cost of Orion is out pacing any would be profit gained by the minimal reduction in mileage. Between any and all wages associated with the workforce, cost of backing accidents, and of course the added conundrum of drastically lower fuel costs. Is there a point at which ORION is a liability that even management will be forced to admit?
     
  2. Clock Sucker

    Clock Sucker I handle a lot of packages

    I think Orion and Amazon should get their own sub sections on this forum. Every other post is about one of them
     
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  3. swing_drv

    swing_drv Member

    We are told we don't have to follow it anymore.
     
  4. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

    We've unofficially been told to follow but when it's not applicable don't. Sorry trying to follow Orion and pick pocket the trace as I go isn't happening. It's harder to do that then to just follow EDD or Orion. My approach is that I either follow Orion or I don't. Problem is though that we were told last week that as of October our only choice is Orion. So either they fix it(holding breath) or we suffer.
     
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  5. bottomups

    bottomups Bad Moon Risen'

    I followed ORION 100% today and went over 9.5 with 78 stops. Third time this week I'm over 9 1/2 hours and will be added to the list tomorrow.
    Had I run my route in my own order I most likely would have finished in around 8.75 hours.
    ORION has significantly decreased my stop count on a daily basis and for that I am happy.
     
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  6. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

    I know it's great isn't it. I've been 9.5 since last year and it's been great ever since. That's my point, since Orion my friend and I always say the new UPS with Orion is "Work less get paid more". Completely the opposite of the UPS I came up in.
     
  7. HEFFERNAN

    HEFFERNAN Huge Member

    A) ORION should have always been used as a tool, not a final outcome.

    B) Anyone who has used a GPS unit knows that the shortest distance is almost NEVER the fastest distance (especially on a 150 stop route)

    C) My truck goes 6 mpg. Even if i drove 6 more miles than Orion says, it cost them $1.50. You have already cut routes, hired less drivers, paying me $34/hr to be out there for 10 hours and your going to bitch and cry about $1.50 !!!!!!!! STFU
     
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  8. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

    I log in close to 170 miles a day, I knew this system was bogus when they expected a flat number in mile reduction and not percentage. I argued a guy in the city is not gonna have the same ability as rual routes do at shaving miles. You would of thought I was Steve Jobs inventing the iPhone in the way these Jack wagons looked at me.
     
  9. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    I think there is a glut(and low prices) of fuel because all the fuel UPS has saved due to ORION.
     
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  10. Brown287

    Brown287 Im not the Mail Man!

    Lol...that's got to be it. I guess Orion won't be too popular in Texas then.
     
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  11. TooTechie

    TooTechie Geek in Brown

    2014 called. They want their thread back.
     
  12. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    We were told today to not badly about Orion to the customers. So my question is, what do I tell the customers when they ask why I'm delivering at 3pm when I used to be there at 10am???
     
  13. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    The shipper is the customer, not the consignee. Or so I've been told.
     
  14. FilingBluesFL

    FilingBluesFL Well-Known Member

    My answer "This is when the multi-billion dollar company told me to be here."
     
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  15. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    We work for the shareholders, not the customers or the consignee.
     
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  16. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    We don't back anymore, we coast in neutral.
     
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  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    At that point you give them the center phone number.
     
  18. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Does your whole route have your center's phone number? Seems like you give it out for any little thing.
     
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  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I very rarely give it out but I am not going to defend a dispatch decision that I don't agree with.
     
  20. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Better to go through the 800#, leaves a paper trail, if they call directly to the center, it is easily swept under the rug.