ORION coming

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by bddaddy, Aug 30, 2015.

  1. bddaddy

    bddaddy Member

    Now that a lot of you have had it for a while, what are your thoughts? I have a few questions - how does it work for base/split cars? Is it really saving time? We have 2 centers in my building and the other one just got it and I talked to a driver who said he's saving 10 miles a day but working an hour or more overtime. That doesn't seem to be saving the company any money.
     
  2. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    I don't know what comming is. Can we start with that? Is that an internet term? Like Dot Comming?
     
  3. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    I took the extra "m" out of the original title, it had me confused and I'm sober tonight.
     
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  4. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    It saves me one gallon of diesel a day and pays me at least an extra hundred dollars a week in overtime. Its a brilliant program.
     
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  5. cosmo1

    cosmo1 Just another internet hooligan.


    There you go, scratch.


    It works.
     
  6. 'Lord Brown's bidding'

    'Lord Brown's bidding' Well-Known Member

    Was told my center is getting it soon, too, perhaps as soon as October, but definitely in the beginning of the next year.

    I recall reading here that if you end up with at least four misloads in a day, the ORION report becomes invalid. Is that true?

    Not looking forward to encounters with disgruntled business customers who'll get their deliveries as I make their pickups, because 'ORION tells me so'.
     
  7. Cementups

    Cementups Box Monkey

    That makes soooooo much more sense. Thanks
     
  8. scratch

    scratch Least Best Moderator Staff Member

    We don't deliver missloads anymore, that adds miles to the route. Service doesn't really matter anymore. One thing I like about it is I no longer have to help the driver next to me if he has too many NDAs, that messes my "Solution" up.
     
  9. moldsporh

    moldsporh Active Member

    Don't try to be a hero about it. Don't try to figure it out or waste your time trying to figure it out.

    Run the order, tell them you may have late airs, let them tell you what to do.

    Take your lunch between the 4th and 6th hour and get on the 9.5 list.

    Trust me. I'm not trying to be anti ups, I'm just letting you know it's not worth getting in trouble over. Let your customers contact ups if they are having service issues especially with time of delivery because it will change wildly.

    You might save a mile or 2, but waste an hour of pay in doing that.....that part is a fact.

    When I say waste, ups will pay you an hour or more to save about a quart of fuel for 1 or 2 miles saved.
     
  10. heybobby!

    heybobby! Member

    I do my first stop then shut Orion off not a word from management
     
  11. Grey

    Grey Active Member

    Same here and with everyone else in our center. Some hubs stress it more than others.
     
  12. moldsporh

    moldsporh Active Member

    Because management hasn't been told to enforce it.

    Lucky you....We have to follow it just because.
     
  13. My stop count lowered, paid day went up. I do not mind following 100%
     
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  14. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Just in time for peak, where one would think they'd want to utilize this tool to it's full glory. I mean a program designed to save miles and give us stop for stop guidance as to the best way to perform our job, why wouldn't you use it? If it's not good enough to demand full use out of it during peak, then one could surmise it's not good enough any other time of the year.

    If there are "issues" with the system and not all parts are working, one could wonder why force the use of it, why set us up to limp when we've been walking just fine without it. Do we ask drivers to drive vehicles that are missing a 3rd gear? Do we ask management to use yellow pads to do daily OR reports? Do we ask pilots to use latitude and not longitude when plotting their coordinates? Do we ask preloaders to load packages with pal label in cell phone contract font?

    Ask them the reason when they get there and report back please, I've yet to get an answer.
     
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  15. mdnj88

    mdnj88 Active Member

    They told us we're saving over 200 miles a day compared to last year. They failed to mention they cut 4 more routes that averaged 55-70 miles each. But yes, Orion is definitely working!!!
     
  16. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    I think I lost a few pounds due to Orion having me walking more. I'm getting paid to work longer and keep in shape! Thanks Orion!
     
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  17. I turn it off after my air is done. Run RDO the rest of the day, come in under Orion miles and under time allowance. Everyday.
     
  18. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    Seems to be the norm. Saves $3 in gas a day and spends an extra $50 in OT a day.


    Ups invented common core math you know.
     
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  19. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    BINGO!!!!!! WE HAVE A WINNER! My exact paid day. Give them what and how they want it done. It's all about your dispatch with Orion. Now it's their plan to follow . Not yours
     
  20. toonertoo

    toonertoo Most Awesome Dog Staff Member

    has anyone overallow went up? Not that it matters.