ORION discipline

[wayfair]

Have any of you been aware of it?

 

[By The Book]

Have any of you been aware of it?

What is it?

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

You can't be disciplined for Orion violations. They can make something else up to discipline you for. Check out new technology language in new contract

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[Jones]

You can't be disciplined for Orion violations. They can make something else up to discipline you for. Check out new technology language in new contract

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Maybe not directly, but they can say "We instructed you to follow Orion, you didn't do it, so you're getting a warning letter for failure to follow instructions."

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Like I said, they can make up something else to discipline you for???

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[Indecisi0n]

Drivers are truly STUPID when it comes to this issue. They argue they are not following ORION because it makes no sense. Just follow ORION and shut up. If you have missed business, Oh well you were working as directed. Man some of the battles you guys choose are just retarded.

 

[Ouch]

Drivers are truly STUPID when it comes to this issue. They argue they are not following ORION because it makes no sense. Just follow ORION and shut up. If you have missed business, Oh well you were working as directed. Man some of the battles you guys choose are just retarded.

Inde, why Is it so hard for people to understand that if you follow their rules you win. I never have understood that.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Well some drivers try to take of customers (service stops) they have had for over 20 years. When ORION is telling them to go deliver a qvc package. You are right though, the best thing to do is just follow it. Have your customers call the center later and ask why am I getting my packages two hours later after 20 years of business

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[Brownslave688]

Drivers are truly STUPID when it comes to this issue. They argue they are not following ORION because it makes no sense. Just follow ORION and shut up. If you have missed business, Oh well you were working as directed. Man some of the battles you guys choose are just retarded.

I'm totally with you. Problem is the company is telling drivers only to run 85%. They know it's a messed up system. So the drivers following 95%+ are getting chewed out for performance and over miles.

They are begging drivers to find the sweet spot. Which is funny that's what every driver did in their own before Orion.

 

[oldngray]

Agreed. If UPS threatens a driver for using common sense instead of trying to meet some arbitrary metric, then shut off brain and follow ORION 100%.

 

[ZQXC]

They are begging drivers to find the sweet spot. Which is funny that's what every driver did in their own before Orion.

And there it is....... Eureka!

 

[Theking30]

100% minus any stops that will cause service failures. Averaging 98.5%. Pretty sweet. Yes customers are not happy, but when it comes to my job or the customer. I think I choose my job.

 

[undies]

A driver was running Orion as close to 100% everyday and was getting killed on over allowed. Finally he was told to run it his way until they "fix" Orion on his route.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

When they start to seriously discipline for Orion....drivers won't be able to turn Orion off in their boards...

 

[wayfair]

When they start to seriously discipline for Orion....drivers won't be able to turn Orion off in their boards...

working termination is pretty serious

 

[bleedinbrown58]

working termination is pretty serious

Agreed...

 

[3 done 3 to go]

working termination is pretty serious

In my 25 plus yrs. Haven't seen one driver fired with a working termination. The union and Ups will make some deal on a couple grievances. Then will be gone. I will follow the damn thing 100%. All businesses are off by 4pm.

 

[soberups]

I have never followed ORION and never been threatened or talked to about my failure to do so. The simple reality for me is that following ORION would cause me to run out of fuel.

 

[728ups]

Drivers are truly STUPID when it comes to this issue. They argue they are not following ORION because it makes no sense. Just follow ORION and shut up. If you have missed business, Oh well you were working as directed. Man some of the battles you guys choose are just retarded.

^^^^^THIS!!!/end thread

 

[bobbybrown]

My center has not got orion yet but if the stories on this forum are true why haven't the shareholders said something? We have missed expectations recently with our quarterly profits and nobody seems to bring up excessive hours due to Orion's failures

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