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Orion, does it work and if not? Why?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mugarolla" data-source="post: 1525835" data-attributes="member: 8481"><p>OK. I may have been exaggerating a little at $15/hr. UPS would pay around $25/hr with full medical and full pension to get and keep good quality help. With that wage and benefits, they could get all the quality people they needed.</p><p></p><p>This would save them $10/hr over what most full timers are making now. Doing some rough math in my head, this would save UPS around $4B per year. That is a lot of zeros.</p><p></p><p>What a lot of you don't realize is that they are going to get the $25/hr drivers anyway. Yes, UPS wants to cap new hires at $25/hr.</p><p></p><p>And those of you that voted yes on this last contract, did not seem to care about the people in the company medical plan. You voted us right out of it. Some of the comments I read were...it was a good contract...it was a good contract for me, and I need to take care of myself etc.</p><p></p><p>I really can't blame you. We all need to look out for ourselves. So how can I believe that you would even care about people not even working here yet?</p><p></p><p>UPS will keep your wages, medical and pension where they are at, with your yearly increases, and cap the new hires at $25/hr. You will say that it is a good contract and vote it in, screwing the new hires. But hey, it will be good for you, right?</p><p></p><p>The union will fight this tooth and nail, only because their dues money is based on the hourly wage. They will get $25 less per month for each employee compared to the $35/hr current employees.</p><p></p><p>The union probably won't even want to put it to a vote because they know it will pass. Everybody for themselves, right? You will keep what you got, so screw the new hires. They won't be voting. They don't work here yet.</p><p></p><p>The problem is, UPS can force a vote. And here is the million dollar question.</p><p></p><p>Are you willing to strike for the the people not even working here yet, even though you will still make your $35/hr with full medical and pension?</p><p></p><p>Everybody for themselves, right?</p><p></p><p>So you see, UPS will get their $25/hr drivers, one way or another. With or without the union.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mugarolla, post: 1525835, member: 8481"] OK. I may have been exaggerating a little at $15/hr. UPS would pay around $25/hr with full medical and full pension to get and keep good quality help. With that wage and benefits, they could get all the quality people they needed. This would save them $10/hr over what most full timers are making now. Doing some rough math in my head, this would save UPS around $4B per year. That is a lot of zeros. What a lot of you don't realize is that they are going to get the $25/hr drivers anyway. Yes, UPS wants to cap new hires at $25/hr. And those of you that voted yes on this last contract, did not seem to care about the people in the company medical plan. You voted us right out of it. Some of the comments I read were...it was a good contract...it was a good contract for me, and I need to take care of myself etc. I really can't blame you. We all need to look out for ourselves. So how can I believe that you would even care about people not even working here yet? UPS will keep your wages, medical and pension where they are at, with your yearly increases, and cap the new hires at $25/hr. You will say that it is a good contract and vote it in, screwing the new hires. But hey, it will be good for you, right? The union will fight this tooth and nail, only because their dues money is based on the hourly wage. They will get $25 less per month for each employee compared to the $35/hr current employees. The union probably won't even want to put it to a vote because they know it will pass. Everybody for themselves, right? You will keep what you got, so screw the new hires. They won't be voting. They don't work here yet. The problem is, UPS can force a vote. And here is the million dollar question. Are you willing to strike for the the people not even working here yet, even though you will still make your $35/hr with full medical and pension? Everybody for themselves, right? So you see, UPS will get their $25/hr drivers, one way or another. With or without the union. [/QUOTE]
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