Just wondering if anyone has filed on Orion system yet on making your miles or staying in trace they are now disqualifying new drivers for miles and trace if anyone has filed plz let me no the outcome if u won I would love to have the grievance number and location and date plz help!
Orion!!! DRIVERS HELP!!
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jaker
trolling
Is it all drivers our just one , it should be a easy fight
Orion doesn't care about schools or business hours and commit times , so you have to break trace because it is still our responsibility to make sure those are done
That right there is your main argument , then you have misloads and helping someone with a pickup
Orion doesn't care about schools or business hours and commit times , so you have to break trace because it is still our responsibility to make sure those are done
That right there is your main argument , then you have misloads and helping someone with a pickup
If you are trying to qualify, they can make up just about any reason
livin the dream
Well-Known Member
yea they'd look the other way if they wanted to keep the driver. I never followed Orion when qualifying and didn't hear anything about it.
barnyard
KTM rider
I thought (I read it here...) the only DQ that a person could grieve when qualifying was not being on the same route for their qualification period.
I would suggest, if you are still qualifying and a supe tells you to follow Orion, follow it. Break trace only for business and commits, then go right back to trace. If a supe says something the next day, respond, "You told me to follow Orion. I did. What would you suggest??" and then do not say anything, do not suggest an answer, be silent and wait for a reply. Have your shop steward with you for this conversation.
I would suggest, if you are still qualifying and a supe tells you to follow Orion, follow it. Break trace only for business and commits, then go right back to trace. If a supe says something the next day, respond, "You told me to follow Orion. I did. What would you suggest??" and then do not say anything, do not suggest an answer, be silent and wait for a reply. Have your shop steward with you for this conversation.
all Trainey' are being disqualified for going over miles now and now they are starting to call regular drivers in the office that's why I wanted to no if there is a decision out there on this matter
And again, not the whole story I'm sure
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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We just had a guy qualify and there was nothing said about trace or miles.
Like I said, this is not the whole story
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Yeah, no. That's not remotely true.
StoptheAct1212
Well-Known Member
I highly doubt they dq them for not making orion numbers....
scooby0048
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They are pulling drivers in the office here for not following it 100%. Is this not a technological advancement not discussed in the current contract? And, if we are told to follow trace 100% but break to get biz and commits off, at what point do you return to trace if you have biz and commits all throughout the day? Do you do each and every biz and each and every commit first, which on some routes, would entail pretty much unloading complete sections and shelves of the truck.
These are all things that need to addressed in the next contract (not that there is any true consistency with policies or procedures at UPS) but until then I can't see how they can discipline drivers for not following Orion.
scooby0048
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You've been good about being truthful to us, don't start lying now! You know damn well everything in the world revolves around IE and their decisions.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
IE does not make that decision.
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
They have no iron in that fire.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
..and why would they...all they care is that every seat has a butt in it...
dudebro
Well-Known Member
Everything about planned time and planned staffing does. Actual people decisions have nothing to do with IE.
e.g. IE was involved in the decision for the center to have 85 assigned drivers.
IE doesn't tell that center that driver Harry Balls is, or isn't, one of those 85.
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