Our Local is worthless!!

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by scoutlover, Dec 21, 2013.

  1. scoutlover

    scoutlover Member

    This has gotten out of hand. Several full time drivers were notified at 7 pm on Friday night that they were being forced to work at 9 am on Saturday morning to deliver air. One would think that this would be an open and shut case in that the M-F driver was not given 24, 48, or 5 day notice depending on interpretation. Our local took the side of the company saying article 40 says air operations supersedes everything in the contract and we are forced to work. Anyone not showing up will be fired under refusal to work or gross insubordination. They also don't feel as if there is anything to file on and this has come from the BA and higher(RTW state). This is just the latest BS from an ever weakening Local. They tell us to take the punishment and then possibly file later. I thought the Brotherhood was supposed to protect us beforehand. What will end up happening is we will work to avoid being fired,file a grievance and then in 8 months when it's heard, they'll say "You know what? You were right about that. Sorry. Have a good day!!". It's the same way with any infraction that doesn't offer any punishment like being pulled off your bid route, etc. They do it over and over for a year, hear the grievance a year later, apologize, and continue to do the same thing over and over. The S.S.'s are all on our side but obviously they're hands are tied. Is there any hope?
     
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  2. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    They can force people to work from the bottom up. I guess you still haven't grown enough whiskers yet.
     
  3. Ouch

    Ouch Well-Known Member

    Why is it everything is our local sucks, our local is weak, our local is in bed with the company. The union members have the right to change the local every election date. So your local has become weak on this one instance? If you dont like it, file on it. Get your members together and form a slate. Maybe your local is calling you guys weak for letting ups get away with contract violations. Your local is only as strong as its members.
     
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  4. scoutlover

    scoutlover Member

    Hardly this one instance. This is just the most blatant example of the contract not being worth the paper it was written on. If we had the power to inform and motivate the people we wouldn't be in this situation. But obviously that isn't the case. So my question is what help do we have when no one stands together and shows support? And as for whiskers, I've got a full beard so to speak. That's another reason this sucks so bad.
     
  5. Ouch

    Ouch Well-Known Member

    If you cant get anyone to stand together that is a serious problem when it comes to unions. Have you met with your ba? Do you attend union meetings? Do you voice your opinion to your steward and ba? Have you talked to your fellow employees about making a change? Do you know your locals officials? I would start with a long conversation with my steward and go up from their. If you dont feel that your local is concerned with upholding the contract make a change. Be a solution. Sometimes if the local doesnt feel like its members are concerned they tend to not know which way to go. You have to start somewhere. I use to get my fellow workers to meet me at a local restaurant on sat or sunday, being a steward I always liked to hear some concerns they had. Its hard to talk to your members while at the hub. Ask your steward if he would meet yall for breakfast one morning and voice yalls opinions to him. Gotta start somewhere.
     
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  6. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Translation:

    " We sit on our ass when everything is in our benefit but the elected officials suck when their decision doesn't go our way. Work to fix it!? That sucks even more! "
     
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  7. cb1969

    cb1969 Member

    Your local is not the only one that sucks...my local BA might as well be the Labor Manager...He works like UPS pays his salary.....
     
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  8. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Cry me a river Malory. You are supposed to max out your hours Einstein Monday thru Friday the last week of peak if you don't want to work Saturday. Wake up
     
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  9. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Deliver one package per hour.
     
  10. scoutlover

    scoutlover Member


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    So that's your solution for a weak local?? As long as I work 60 hours a week than the union is doing their job?
     
  11. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Listen son in the central region they can force you to work on a Saturday as long as you have hours available. If you are stupid enough to have hours available then you are forced to work. Anyway Sherlock if you are a grown ass man nobody can force you to do anything. So call off. I haven't called off this year so if they forced me today I'd be calling off boy. Family first.
     
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  12. Ouch

    Ouch Well-Known Member

    I told you how to fix a weak local.
     
  13. 40andOut

    40andOut Guest

    You can't run out of hours before Wednesday. Get ready to be informed on Tuesday night to come in on Christmas!
     
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  14. scoutlover

    scoutlover Member


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    And I appreciate your response. My post was directed at the person I quoted.
     
  15. scoutlover

    scoutlover Member

    So you work 60 hours every week to avoid working Saturdays? I guess in the Central region you get 52 occurrences to call in?

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  16. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    You are missing the point.
     
  17. Just Lurking

    Just Lurking Member

    We have guys that call of during peak week. They are surprised when they have to work on Saturday at straight time.
     
  18. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Keep smoking that crack.
     
  19. Squint

    Squint No more work for me!

    The hours are counted over a weeks time. Read your contract.
     
  20. chuchu

    chuchu Guest

    That would be 9 months X 4= 36 occurances. But that's splitting hairs. Don't be insubordinate....be "out of service" if you have to.