outside hire question

[littlelady]

If an (outside hire) fails their training does the position then go to the next eligible outside hire or to the teamsters?

 

[TheKid]

Good question . . . I will have to ask my BA.

 

[Anonymous 10]

Outside hire 6 to 1 provision

 

[littlelady]

what is 6 to 1 provision?

 

[Anonymous 10]

For every six teamsters hired into full-time one can be filled as an outside hire.

 

[728ups]

Years ago when i was a part timer we had an off the street hire who quit,and we expected the position to be then filled from the inside. The center manager said he would go thru as many people as needed until he found an off-the-street that would stick with it. I grieved and lost. Keep in mind this was in 1985 so things may have changed since then.

 

[littlelady]

right.... but if the outsider fails their training, does UPS still have to fill that spot with another outside hire?

 

[littlelady]

728 that's how I'm hoping it will go but times have changed.....anyone know the new rule?

 

[yeaalabama1212]

To my knowledge, it would still go to an outside hire. That's how I became a driver. The outside hire prior to me was disqualified so I applied for the position.

 

[littlelady]

how many different ways can you be disqualified?(besides the obvious)

 

[yeaalabama1212]

Accidents, service failures, not running scratch....

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

To my knowledge, it would still go to an outside hire. That's how I became a driver. The outside hire prior to me was disqualified so I applied for the position.

Just curious, have you ever felt that you were less of a driver because you didn't "earn" your position by coming up through the PT ranks?

 

[menotyou]

For someone who travels this site, making sure everyone and their brother hears you saying my opinion doesn't matter or affect you, you certainly ARE affected by what I say. Things that make you go,"Hmmmmm..........".

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Get over yourself. I was simply asking a fellow outside hire what he thought about your assertion that we are "less of an employee/driver" because we didn't come up through the ranks.

I will make this easy for you---you do not have to know how to load them to deliver them.

 

[menotyou]

 

[littlelady]

I don't think I will be less of a driver. I put some time in. And if the job is available it seems fair enough to me.

 

[barnyard]

We have had a few outside hires not make seniority, they were all eventually filled with outsiders that did make it. Once they made seniority and quit, the job was filled by insiders. At my center, outsiders have the highest turnover rate.

 

[menotyou]

I don't think I will be less of a driver. I put some time in. And if the job is available it seems fair enough to me.

I meant no offense. Someone wanted to know why I wasn't filing grievances because they were not hiring from the outside. It went downhill from there.
I do believe you have a better grasp on how everything works when you are the one sweating at 4am.

 

[littlelady]

no offense taken

 

[yeaalabama1212]

Just curious, have you ever felt that you were less of a driver because you didn't "earn" your position by coming up through the PT ranks?