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<blockquote data-quote="BMWSauber1991" data-source="post: 1183207" data-attributes="member: 47373"><p>A lot of people say going into a Pt Sup position is a road to no where. I have to disagree, although I am a union hourly employee I have thought about going into management myself, and I still think about the pros and cons about doing it today. No matter how you look at it a $5 dollar raise is nothing to joke about, that is substantial raise in my book. It is an excellent job for a résumé and even better if your in college and plan on working somewhere else. If you did decided on sticking it out at UPS your chances of being a driver is slim but that doesn't mean it is impossible. FT managers are usually reluctant in making pt managers drivers because they had to spend money making them managers. I assume it is vice versa for drivers, it's probably a slim chance they can become a FT manager, but, again not impossible. There are many positives when being a union employee (job security, guaranteed wage increases, excellent health insurance, minimal mental labor, etc,) but there is also a list of negatives (seniority rules/you can't compete for a better job, top out rates, strikes, lots of physical labor, etc.) Seniority and set tops out rates can be good or bad on how you view them, I personally believe if I where to work harder than the next guy I should be rewarded accordingly thought raises and better job offers. It always sucks to see a slacker get a better job and pay than you because he has worked there longer. But that's just the way it works, and I can not get mad at the fact that it happens in such a way. There is also pros and cons about management, pros being (wage increases based off performance, job offers based off performance, minimal physical labor, endless career advancement, more tuition reimbursement, etc.) and cons being (usually no job security, pay for your benefits, lots of mental labor, etc.). </p><p></p><p>I am not saying one is better than the other, but with taking the management route you are taking a risk of being in a ENTRY level management role. You have to prove to your FT that you are awesome at your job so that you can get better raises and move up the ladder. And yeah, you will have to kiss a little a** along the way. Both union and management positions have a lot of responsibility that comes with them just like any other job. </p><p></p><p>A key thing to remember if you go management, just remember where you came from. Treat your employees with respect, don't impede on there working right by stealing work, time, etc., and don't right them up for every single thing they do wrong. Both jobs deserve respect and dignity. </p><p></p><p>What i have learned in life is treat others the way you want to be treated and with more risk comes more reward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BMWSauber1991, post: 1183207, member: 47373"] A lot of people say going into a Pt Sup position is a road to no where. I have to disagree, although I am a union hourly employee I have thought about going into management myself, and I still think about the pros and cons about doing it today. No matter how you look at it a $5 dollar raise is nothing to joke about, that is substantial raise in my book. It is an excellent job for a résumé and even better if your in college and plan on working somewhere else. If you did decided on sticking it out at UPS your chances of being a driver is slim but that doesn't mean it is impossible. FT managers are usually reluctant in making pt managers drivers because they had to spend money making them managers. I assume it is vice versa for drivers, it's probably a slim chance they can become a FT manager, but, again not impossible. There are many positives when being a union employee (job security, guaranteed wage increases, excellent health insurance, minimal mental labor, etc,) but there is also a list of negatives (seniority rules/you can't compete for a better job, top out rates, strikes, lots of physical labor, etc.) Seniority and set tops out rates can be good or bad on how you view them, I personally believe if I where to work harder than the next guy I should be rewarded accordingly thought raises and better job offers. It always sucks to see a slacker get a better job and pay than you because he has worked there longer. But that's just the way it works, and I can not get mad at the fact that it happens in such a way. There is also pros and cons about management, pros being (wage increases based off performance, job offers based off performance, minimal physical labor, endless career advancement, more tuition reimbursement, etc.) and cons being (usually no job security, pay for your benefits, lots of mental labor, etc.). I am not saying one is better than the other, but with taking the management route you are taking a risk of being in a ENTRY level management role. You have to prove to your FT that you are awesome at your job so that you can get better raises and move up the ladder. And yeah, you will have to kiss a little a** along the way. Both union and management positions have a lot of responsibility that comes with them just like any other job. A key thing to remember if you go management, just remember where you came from. Treat your employees with respect, don't impede on there working right by stealing work, time, etc., and don't right them up for every single thing they do wrong. Both jobs deserve respect and dignity. What i have learned in life is treat others the way you want to be treated and with more risk comes more reward. [/QUOTE]
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