Package Car Driver being passed on the Feeder list by article 22 employees

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by TheBrownLife, Mar 23, 2014.

  1. TheBrownLife

    TheBrownLife New Member

    Article 22 employees are going to Feeders over qualified Package Car Drivers. The Contract says that, "you must have a good driving record and the employee not having an avoidable accident during the preceding year".

    As a Package Car driver with a clean driving record and not having an avoidable accident during the preceding year, I recently filed and lost a grievance stating Article 22 employees do not meet the prerequisite of not having an avoidable accident, since many of them don't drive.

    Just curious what other UPSers think?
  2. over9five

    over9five Senior Member Staff Member

    Should go by seniority.
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  3. upschuck

    upschuck Well-Known Member

    How can you have an accident if you are not driving? :clown:
  4. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    In my building, all but 2 of the article 22 jobs include driving. Are you sure you were passed over by people that are not driving as part of their jobs??
  5. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    As long as they are qualified it goes by full time seniority so most article 22 employees should be able to get those bids.
  6. TheBrownLife

    TheBrownLife New Member

    Yes. Currently there is a carwash/preload article 22 employee that went to feeders in the last 6 months. On the current Feeder bid sheet, there are 11 article 22 employees who are in front of me.
  7. TheBrownLife

    TheBrownLife New Member

    It's hard to be "unavoidable accident" free, if you're not driving for the company.
  8. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    We have had two 22.3 that I know of for sure come into feeder. It is done here by FT seniority. One reason they have come in is that there is apparently a lack of PC drivers that want to go feeder. Word is there is also a lack of PT folk who want to go to PC too.
  9. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Carwash employees certainly do drive. Just because they do not go off property does not mean they do not drive.

    In my center, the guys that park the trucks do a 1 year annual ride, where they do a 5 or 10 mile loop with a supe.
  10. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    We have had car parkers hit another car while parking, get charged with an avoidable and were unable to sign a bid. 1 car parker was ineligible for 3 bids, so he quit parking cars and unloaded trailers until he could sign a FT bid.

    A 22.3 that is washing cars is driving.
  11. TheBrownLife

    TheBrownLife New Member

    They don't do that in our center.
  12. TheBrownLife

    TheBrownLife New Member

    Many times mirrors or side windows in packages cars are broken by carwash. Accidents are never reported, and vehicles are never repaired before the start of the package car drivers next shift.
  13. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    Another example where your best answer is going to come from reading the contract and the supplement for your local.
  14. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    A week ago Friday a car washer/ parker while parking a newer p1000 inside the building made the back look like a accordion and left it where he parked it. So on Sunday night the FT preload had to switch it out... the bumper was pushed all the way under the back of the car.
  15. Us pc drivers...dont wantg to get fat!....njustg
  16. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    No damage, no accident.
  17. TheBrownLife

    TheBrownLife New Member

  18. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    Replaced=no damage.
  19. TheBrownLife

    TheBrownLife New Member

    In the package car world, we get charged with an accident for this.
  20. superballs63

    superballs63 Well-Known Troll Troll

    Can you prove that the person or persons who won the bid HAVE had an avoidable accident? This is kind of like court, where the burden of proof would be on you to prove that they did in order to win your grievance.

    If they have not had any accidents, then you lose (Which it kind of seems like you already have)