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<blockquote data-quote="Billy" data-source="post: 515354" data-attributes="member: 17377"><p>It makes me wonder what they were traded for. The Union is not afraid of UPS, nor do they just give up on grievances. With that in mind one should remember that UPS is not afraid of the union either, and doesn't want to just pay every time. To run a successful business they can't. It's all politics really. For example, let's say you're about to be article 50 for something. Well there may be some major money grievances for supervisors working. Perhaps they would trade off. Perhaps not this exact scenario but you get the jist. I wonder what kind of horse trading happened in Florida. </p><p> </p><p>TrickPony, sadly you may be right that the union is weaker than in the past. Unfortunately it's because of people that have the same views as you. The union can only be as strong as their members allow it to be. If the drivers do not stand together and stop all the narcissistic daily BS...it may always be weak. (ie) Drivers skipping lunch, and running through the route allowing management to expect those numbers and not put in more routes. To have a strong union it is everyones job to help it by reminding others to stay together. How successful do you think our military would be if they followed the same guidelines? I am not attacking you just reminding you what I bet you already know...one for me and all for none doesn't work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Billy, post: 515354, member: 17377"] It makes me wonder what they were traded for. The Union is not afraid of UPS, nor do they just give up on grievances. With that in mind one should remember that UPS is not afraid of the union either, and doesn't want to just pay every time. To run a successful business they can't. It's all politics really. For example, let's say you're about to be article 50 for something. Well there may be some major money grievances for supervisors working. Perhaps they would trade off. Perhaps not this exact scenario but you get the jist. I wonder what kind of horse trading happened in Florida. TrickPony, sadly you may be right that the union is weaker than in the past. Unfortunately it's because of people that have the same views as you. The union can only be as strong as their members allow it to be. If the drivers do not stand together and stop all the narcissistic daily BS...it may always be weak. (ie) Drivers skipping lunch, and running through the route allowing management to expect those numbers and not put in more routes. To have a strong union it is everyones job to help it by reminding others to stay together. How successful do you think our military would be if they followed the same guidelines? I am not attacking you just reminding you what I bet you already know...one for me and all for none doesn't work. [/QUOTE]
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