part time sup making us hub bag smalls instead of fine sorting

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by mike42064, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    Filed a grievance for my manager trying to improve his numbers and avoid paying us over time by having us hub bag smalls instead of location specific sorting like we usually do, any advice on this would be appreciated. He's done it two days in a row and I've already given him one grievance with more to come because he's transferring our work to a bigger hub instead of paying us to do it.
     
  2. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    work as directed and then grieve. You might want to call your BA and let them know what is going on.....
     
  3. KBlakk

    KBlakk Overworked & Underpaid

    Where is the contract violation here? Isn't the work being forwarded by union employees to union employees? Is the 3.5 hr guarantee being honored?
     
  4. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    What article did you grieve under? Not sure I can see the grievance.
     
  5. BLACKBALLED

    BLACKBALLED Member

    Are you sure it is not because there are pull times that have to be met and he is trying to prevent the other center from being negatively impacted, you have to remember if your sort is running late it will have an impact on all of the other sorts and when the time comes to get the drivers out on time in the morning the trailers may be delayed because of it, dont assume they are trying to give work to other centers understand the customers have to have the packages they paid for on time, if not the company pays and the only reason you have a job as well as all upsers is because of the customer.
     
  6. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    filed under work assignment, it says our work can't be transferred to another local, and was wondering if i can use the subcontracting article because it states that our work can't be transferred in part or whole to another local or company for the sole purpose of avoiding overtime pay. and i wouldnt file if they only did it so it wouldn't interrupt service, but the trailers they get loaded into do not pull until well after the sort is over. I'm not "nit picking" I'm protecting our jobs. The way he's doing it is once they get to the hub they break down the bags again and do the same location specific sorting that we would have done.
     
  7. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    article 3 section 4 of master is work assignment
     
  8. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    article 3 section 5 describes "local unions" so I'm interpreting it as a violation to send our work to another local for any reason other then service interruption
     
  9. KBlakk

    KBlakk Overworked & Underpaid

    Is the other hub covered by the same local?
     
  10. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    no they are sending itover an hour away
     
  11. KBlakk

    KBlakk Overworked & Underpaid

    An hours drive time could still be covered by the same local, ask your shop steward if the other hub is within the same jurisdiction.
     
  12. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    I'm the shop steward and we have only 2 buildings in our local and that ain't one of them.
     
  13. KBlakk

    KBlakk Overworked & Underpaid

    In that case you may have a legit grievance but the outcome of this grievance will not be an open and shut case, be prepared for a drawn out debate.
     
  14. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    yes figure they will drag it out
     
  15. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    might look through dockets to see if any past grievances of that nature have been won before
     
  16. KBlakk

    KBlakk Overworked & Underpaid

    Prior to the two grievances that you have filed, has any attempt to resolve this concern been made "in house"?
     
  17. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    yes I've held him at bay when i stopped them from doing it a couple years ago but he's succumbing to the pressure from upper management to increase his production numbers.
     
  18. KBlakk

    KBlakk Overworked & Underpaid

    I have been on both sides of the grievance table, I'm a former shop steward and I currently run a Preload. There is constant pressure from above no question but most supervisors and managers are decent people, we are bound by they same rules of "work as directed" but there is no option to grieve. Odds are your manager knows what needs to be done but has been directed otherwise. Be open minded when it comes to modern management we "sell our souls" to make a living just as a service provider sells his body to make a living. A bad decision doesn't necessarily mean a bad person or manager.
     
  19. mike42064

    mike42064 New Member

    agreed, it's never personal. I'm looking after my peoples jobs and constantly trying to be fair and see things from both sides. i understand he needs to hit his numbers but the bar has been raised so high it's unrealistic to do on a consistent basis. But it's his job to try and do it the right way in accordance to the contract that both sides signed off on. thanks for your advice.
     
  20. LongTimeComing

    LongTimeComing Air Ops Pro

    Are you :censored2::censored2::censored2::censored2:ing serious right now? THIS is what you want to waste people's time with? Seems to me you are looking for something to grieve.

    He's doing it to ensure the service of the packages. A snowball will have a better chance passing through hell than you do convincing someone otherwise. Please, don't waste everyone's time with a petty grievance that you won't win. There are much worse things that are happening around you that need more attention than this....