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<blockquote data-quote="Inthegame" data-source="post: 1129079" data-attributes="member: 37112"><p>1)How can you warn about passing a contract "as written" that you haven't read? For being around as long as you have forming an opinion based on hearsay and conjecture lacks good sense.</p><p></p><p>2)It is a tentative agreement. When details are firm everyone will have the entire contract carefully explained and full texts sent to their homes if their too lazy to show up at a meeting, and you know this.</p><p></p><p>3) If this contract is as I've been told (from a member of the National Committee) it will sell itself.</p><p></p><p>4) You'll get full undisclosed honesty and explanations at the aforementioned contract explanation meetings, but the move to a four year progression is a concession. This will affect many PT to FT members but the start rate is higher so the hurt is lessened which should mitigate the "adverse" effect on a great number of your co-workers (UPS proposed a six year progression at the old rate).</p><p></p><p>5) Orangeputeh makes many good comments...</p><p></p><p>6) TDU spreads the previously mentioned conjecture and rumors. They are not at the table, they have never been at any table or negotiated any CBA. They live if a fairy tale land of what-ifs and how it should be. hall lives in reality. If IBT members want to believe the make-believe from TDU they're dumming themselves down. The so-called brownout is a conjured attempt from TDU to give themselves relevance. No one is being treated as a mushroom, the agreement is TENTATIVE. The IBT has a meeting scheduled next week to explain the entire Master to all UPS locals (some have no presense on the National Committee therefore are not in the inner loop). These locals will then explain the info to all our members. This is proper. The IBT has been forthright on this and you will have far more info on this contract in May of 2013 than you had in May of 1997. </p><p></p><p>I backed Ron Carey 100% in '97. So did hall. Times change, and bright people adapt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Inthegame, post: 1129079, member: 37112"] 1)How can you warn about passing a contract "as written" that you haven't read? For being around as long as you have forming an opinion based on hearsay and conjecture lacks good sense. 2)It is a tentative agreement. When details are firm everyone will have the entire contract carefully explained and full texts sent to their homes if their too lazy to show up at a meeting, and you know this. 3) If this contract is as I've been told (from a member of the National Committee) it will sell itself. 4) You'll get full undisclosed honesty and explanations at the aforementioned contract explanation meetings, but the move to a four year progression is a concession. This will affect many PT to FT members but the start rate is higher so the hurt is lessened which should mitigate the "adverse" effect on a great number of your co-workers (UPS proposed a six year progression at the old rate). 5) Orangeputeh makes many good comments... 6) TDU spreads the previously mentioned conjecture and rumors. They are not at the table, they have never been at any table or negotiated any CBA. They live if a fairy tale land of what-ifs and how it should be. hall lives in reality. If IBT members want to believe the make-believe from TDU they're dumming themselves down. The so-called brownout is a conjured attempt from TDU to give themselves relevance. No one is being treated as a mushroom, the agreement is TENTATIVE. The IBT has a meeting scheduled next week to explain the entire Master to all UPS locals (some have no presense on the National Committee therefore are not in the inner loop). These locals will then explain the info to all our members. This is proper. The IBT has been forthright on this and you will have far more info on this contract in May of 2013 than you had in May of 1997. I backed Ron Carey 100% in '97. So did hall. Times change, and bright people adapt. [/QUOTE]
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