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<blockquote data-quote="Inthegame" data-source="post: 1129155" data-attributes="member: 37112"><p>Inside, There's alot to answer and in an attempt at brevity (which I'm confident you'll accuse me of some kind of maneuver) I may miss something. </p><p>1A) I don't look at UPS'ers for info from or about the IBT. That seems couterproductive in labor issues so I don't waste the time. The "Tentative Agreement" is in written form and will be circulated at the meeting on May 7th.</p><p>You're right I have connections most don't, but I've cultivated those connections by being active in my local for a long time, so those "connections" might be available to those that engage.</p><p>2A) I was refering to H&W changes and the new modified CS C6 plan. Those changes will be explained at the mtg May 7th. If anyone is in a local that gives lousy explanations, elect a new board. </p><p>3A) Thanks for the insult, but my eyes are wide open. Don't worry about a friendship tainting what I believe. I read UPS's proposals from two weeks ago. To produce this "Tentative" agreement from that steaming pile of excrement impressed me. Nice job with the car made in Ohio, but why were you even looking at a Toyota?</p><p>4A) Local Unions have a duty to provide this info, and members have a duty to elect officers who fulfill their duties.</p><p>In a previous post, you've mentioned you've met Bill Lichtenwald. If you have ANY question on any of this he will be glad to speak to you at anytime. (He's on the Committee) LM2's have little to do with this discussion, but yet you distractively posted the link. How do LM2's let anyone know if the contract will be explained properly?</p><p>5A) I was responding to your post, not Orangeputeh's. I addressed his point in my post. Oddly though, you criticized me for "conveniently" not addressing his comments but then accused me of addressing his comments later in the post? Whew...Senseless. I'm guessing most readers with a modicum of brain tissue understood I'm not a big TDU fan. </p><p>6A) Swimming in murky water here cowboy...you can be/do/support anything you want. Pretty sure you're convoluting my statement, a tactic modeled well by the editors at TDU, but actually I think smart people should question everything, ESPECIALLY anything written by the wannabe, knownothings from TDU. </p><p>I haven't seen what you state TDU posted about meeting dates but even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then so maybe it's accurate...But as I clearly stated you'll receive the agreement in your mailbox. If TDU claims receiving information every UPS'er gets as a victory, heaven help us.</p><p>7A) Agreed</p><p></p><p>Inside, I'm not battling you. I want what you want...a good deal for our people, and I don't think TDU provides that. If I can get any answers not posted PM me and I'll see what I can do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Inthegame, post: 1129155, member: 37112"] Inside, There's alot to answer and in an attempt at brevity (which I'm confident you'll accuse me of some kind of maneuver) I may miss something. 1A) I don't look at UPS'ers for info from or about the IBT. That seems couterproductive in labor issues so I don't waste the time. The "Tentative Agreement" is in written form and will be circulated at the meeting on May 7th. You're right I have connections most don't, but I've cultivated those connections by being active in my local for a long time, so those "connections" might be available to those that engage. 2A) I was refering to H&W changes and the new modified CS C6 plan. Those changes will be explained at the mtg May 7th. If anyone is in a local that gives lousy explanations, elect a new board. 3A) Thanks for the insult, but my eyes are wide open. Don't worry about a friendship tainting what I believe. I read UPS's proposals from two weeks ago. To produce this "Tentative" agreement from that steaming pile of excrement impressed me. Nice job with the car made in Ohio, but why were you even looking at a Toyota? 4A) Local Unions have a duty to provide this info, and members have a duty to elect officers who fulfill their duties. In a previous post, you've mentioned you've met Bill Lichtenwald. If you have ANY question on any of this he will be glad to speak to you at anytime. (He's on the Committee) LM2's have little to do with this discussion, but yet you distractively posted the link. How do LM2's let anyone know if the contract will be explained properly? 5A) I was responding to your post, not Orangeputeh's. I addressed his point in my post. Oddly though, you criticized me for "conveniently" not addressing his comments but then accused me of addressing his comments later in the post? Whew...Senseless. I'm guessing most readers with a modicum of brain tissue understood I'm not a big TDU fan. 6A) Swimming in murky water here cowboy...you can be/do/support anything you want. Pretty sure you're convoluting my statement, a tactic modeled well by the editors at TDU, but actually I think smart people should question everything, ESPECIALLY anything written by the wannabe, knownothings from TDU. I haven't seen what you state TDU posted about meeting dates but even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then so maybe it's accurate...But as I clearly stated you'll receive the agreement in your mailbox. If TDU claims receiving information every UPS'er gets as a victory, heaven help us. 7A) Agreed Inside, I'm not battling you. I want what you want...a good deal for our people, and I don't think TDU provides that. If I can get any answers not posted PM me and I'll see what I can do. [/QUOTE]
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