Come across anything on UPSers, Drewed?
Pay Change - PT Supervisors?
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Come across anything on UPSers, Drewed?
beentheredonethat
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I believe it's going into effect in the entire US (including PR). It also is going to go in effect for Specialists (both PT and FT) which includes the OMS in the ctrs. I believe the weekly pay is still in theory salary, based on the set hours they have which I believe is 40 hrs/week for FT and 27.5/week for PT. If you work (and record) more then that in PTRS then you'll be paid additional. If you don't work those hours, I believe you'll still be paid the base weekly salary.
I'm sorry, I meant the change with the half month "bonus" PT sups get in December being spread out over the course of next year's salary.
Noooo one of ramp managers got a memo last week on it, Im on vaca this week so i havent heard anything new...
Skizoaustin
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OK, I just talked to my HR rep a couple hours ago about this.
According to her, P/T Sups are going hourly.
Just as UPS has was critical about working over 27.5/weekly when the economy and volume were up, they have now been researching how much they are giving out to those who are not working 27.5 now that the economy and volume is down.
According to HR, those sups who work 27.5 hours each week should see no decrease in salary. However, those that are in operations which have seen significant decreases in volume (mine!), will see relative decreases in salary.
This feels like a huge slap in the face. For years, I worked every single week over 27.5 and never got a nickel of OT. Now the work is down and it won't even equal out.
It seems painfully obvious to me now that UPS was only paying us salary b/c they knew they could get away with paying us less, for more work. It was never about fair wages.
I'm pissed.
According to her, P/T Sups are going hourly.
Just as UPS has was critical about working over 27.5/weekly when the economy and volume were up, they have now been researching how much they are giving out to those who are not working 27.5 now that the economy and volume is down.
According to HR, those sups who work 27.5 hours each week should see no decrease in salary. However, those that are in operations which have seen significant decreases in volume (mine!), will see relative decreases in salary.
This feels like a huge slap in the face. For years, I worked every single week over 27.5 and never got a nickel of OT. Now the work is down and it won't even equal out.
It seems painfully obvious to me now that UPS was only paying us salary b/c they knew they could get away with paying us less, for more work. It was never about fair wages.
I'm pissed.
You're on vacation too this week? And you're still on these forums. Sigh. UPS.
MinnesotaZepher
Member
No one will see a decrease in salary. Here are a few points:
-PT Mgmt. will no longer make 1.1 * Hourly Wage (whats determined when you take Monthly Salary and calculate it to an Hourly Rate) for anything over 27.5-40hpw. Instead of dealing with that, any P/T supervisor will recieve an automtic increase to compensate for this. (This is in addition to your normal 6 month increase as well as the increase that is reflecting the half month).
-PT Mgmt & friend/T Supervisors are guaranteed their set salaries as long as they have completed time cards in PTRS, if someone forgets to fill out a timecard, this could affect their pay.
-No decrease in salary will occur if 27.5 or 40 hpw commitment has been made, as long as timecards are submitted.
-Anyone, PT Mgmt. FT Specialist, who works over 40 will still receive 1.5 * HR.
-Its important if people have extra money being taken out of their paychecks for taxes, that they re-do this to a weekly pay rather than semi-monthly.
-PT Mgmt. will no longer make 1.1 * Hourly Wage (whats determined when you take Monthly Salary and calculate it to an Hourly Rate) for anything over 27.5-40hpw. Instead of dealing with that, any P/T supervisor will recieve an automtic increase to compensate for this. (This is in addition to your normal 6 month increase as well as the increase that is reflecting the half month).
-PT Mgmt & friend/T Supervisors are guaranteed their set salaries as long as they have completed time cards in PTRS, if someone forgets to fill out a timecard, this could affect their pay.
-No decrease in salary will occur if 27.5 or 40 hpw commitment has been made, as long as timecards are submitted.
-Anyone, PT Mgmt. FT Specialist, who works over 40 will still receive 1.5 * HR.
-Its important if people have extra money being taken out of their paychecks for taxes, that they re-do this to a weekly pay rather than semi-monthly.
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westsideworma
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the sheet I saw said nothing of this. It was an official UPS document detailing the whole change as well. They said it would be the same as before, you were guaranteed 27.5 salary and paid for extra time worked. You would just get paid weekly instead of bi monthly or semi monthly or whatever they call it (no its not every two weeks). I guess we'll wait and see.
I wonder if our higher up management posters could tell us more. I wish I had kept that copy of the paper so I could share the info with you guys, I'll see if I can find another copy.
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westsideworma
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at the same time I wouldn't be too surprised if it did turn out to be true...UPS doesn't usually do something different with its employees unless the company benefits somehow. I said that the first time I heard the rumor about this. I forsee a lot less supes running out the door/rushing their people off the clock now if this turns out to be the case (less than 27.5 equals less pay) or some just leaving altogether.
brownsugar
Member
Yes this is being done across the country - I'm a specialist at Corporate and this change is going into effect for us too.
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westsideworma
Guest
these points seem to contradict themselves, could you clear this up a bit please? not being a smart ass, I really want to know
writer
Preoad Supervisor
No kidding. The unload supes get there at the time we do and leave almost an hour earlier.
You must complete your PTRS card daily because payroll for PT Sup's now will also close out on Monday's like hourly employees because you will get that check on Friday. If someone forgets to put in a card, it could mean a payroll adjustment and/or missing pay for that week because of this.
Bottom line, fill out your timecard daily
writer
Preoad Supervisor
I have never forgotten to do mine. A couple here have and we were all told if we forget we will lose a discretionary day. Not sure our preload manager could do that, but he has threatened to
atatbl
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LMAO! Judging from your other thread I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to take a week of vacation away from you.
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westsideworma
Guest
that part I get, I was referring to the the part where it said we won't get paid less, but then says we will if the 27.5 commitment was not met...so which is it?
MinnesotaZepher
Member
Sorry, you are paid your salary regardless of working 27.5 or 40 as long as a time card is filled out for each day. Also, the increase in salary is like 4.3% for P/T & 4.27% for Specialists (again a estimate, I know it was over 4, and the P/T supervisor had a greater increase due compensate for the elimination of Premium Pay). This increase is also what is comensating for the half month.
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