Pay Rate for Saturday Air

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by BrownDog5117, May 16, 2015.

  1. BrownDog5117

    BrownDog5117 Member

    I drove air today and while out driving, a customer waved me over.

    I pulled over and asked him what I could do for him, and he asked if I could take some ground packages from him. He had prepaid return labels and everything. I wasn't exactly sure if I should take them or not (first time asked that on a Saturday), but I took them anyways because hey... "service the package right?".

    I don't scan them until I talk to my supervisor, who in turn tells me he would have picked them up too and to just sheet them like usual... Special Count.. blah blah .. usual pick up procedure.

    When I got home my buddy told me I should get paid more for today since I "handled ground packages"... He said I should be top ground rate for the day.

    Out of curiosity, is he right? Not that I'd ever want to make a stink over something that small, but I was just wondering if that's true, or if that just applies to delivering ground.

    Thanks!
     
  2. ManInBrown

    ManInBrown Well-Known Member

    How come air drivers are allowed to handle ground packages when they pick up letter boxes at night? That's touching Ground.
     
  3. reginald396

    reginald396 Member

    You can ask your sup to code you as top rate but he can say that you weren't instructed to pick up ground and not give you the rate.
     
  4. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Technically your friend is right but you were not directed by a mgt person to make a ground pickup so, no, you go not get top rate for being a nice guy.
     
  5. box_beeyotch

    box_beeyotch Well-Known Member

    It only applies if management tells you to pick up and/or deliver ground. You could grieve it, but it would get tossed out.
     
  6. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    ...and your days of driving Saturday air would be over...
     
  7. BrownDog5117

    BrownDog5117 Member

    Hahaha! It doesn't mean that much to me, I was just curious about it.
     
  8. box_beeyotch

    box_beeyotch Well-Known Member

    Oh for that matter, your days of working for UPS might be over for awhile over that. Now full time air drivers here, they are paid top ground rate if they are called in early to shuttle misloads or if they have to take on an extra ground pick up that another driver could not fit.
     
  9. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    They used to hate when I ran Saturday air as I would deliver Monday air at the same time.
     
  10. There isn't a ground code. If he scanned ground packages he should automatically get ground pay for it since it appears as a ground pickup area in his time card.

    Only way for his sup to avoid it was to delete the pickups in his time card.
     
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  11. Sleeve_meet_Heart

    Sleeve_meet_Heart making the unreadable unreadabler

    Because often the air driver is the last one at the box. The union and co. worked out this deal about a decade ago.
     
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  12. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    And this is why PT guys aren't allowed to run the misloads they bring out to FT drivers during the week. It's also the reason when we have late air they can't help take some stops off you because you're so far behind because of said air.
     
  13. reginald396

    reginald396 Member

    You are paid according the your paycode. If you are not a full time driver and you deliver, pickup ground, shuttle ground, the sup has to code you as top rate. It's a diff code than a full time driver but it's there. Even if you scan a ground package the computer won't automatically pick up on it.
     
  14. Jackburton

    Jackburton Gone Fish'n

    Those of us around here watch for air drivers being asked to help with ground PU's but not scan the pieces because they are intimated by management to do so. As you know that would bring the air driver up to ground pay, but in order to make that happen, we'd need to file on the air drivers behalf.
     
  15. BrownDog5117

    BrownDog5117 Member

    I actually called my supervisor and asked him if it applied to me, and he said I could ask for a wage adjustment. Ten minutes later he called me back and said that it applies to those drivers who are instructed to go make a ground pickup/delivery.

    Just a very interesting situation. I reread the contract where this applies and I can't quite tell.

    I don't want to rock the boat, but you think I should bring it up again?
     
  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Nope.

    You did a favor for a customer---is that worth an additional $15-20/hr for the whole day?
     
  17. BrownDog5117

    BrownDog5117 Member

    The favor is enough. Thanks for all the input!
     
  18. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    So the paper trail on that would be a time card correction, if this employee was to inquire about this later?
     
  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Actually there is---05 (hours only) or 06 (daily guarantee).

    Saturday Air is 5E.
     
  20. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    Who is they?, in most areas they only have the Saturday air out and able to be processed.