Penalty for a wrongly denied request?

[iruhnman630]

My svd request for tomorrow was denied 'by seniority.'

That's fine, except for the lower seniority driver who got his svd for tommorow.


Oops.

 

[Indecisi0n]

S v wut

 

[iruhnman630]

Single vacation day.

 

[Cementups]

we call them personal/option days.

And you should be bringing this to your union steward's attention, not ours.

 

[scooby0048]

My svd request for tomorrow was denied 'by seniority.'

That's fine, except for the lower seniority driver who got his svd for tommorow.


Oops.

I smell a grievance. Did you talk to center manager first to bring it up?

 

[WorknLateHuh]

Mngmt trying to pull a fast one?? nah, that never happens

 

[over9five]

Why didn't you use your seniority? The center manager made a mistake, just tell him.

 

[By The Book]

My svd request for tomorrow was denied 'by seniority.'

That's fine, except for the lower seniority driver who got his svd for tommorow.


Oops.

Did you put in your request far enough in advance?, if you have to? This game goes on and on how they deny your seniority...why do we put up with the bs?

 

[iruhnman630]

I went in Thursday morning ( I was on vacation) before start time to turn in the request and sign a route bid.

8 days ahead.

The text I from dispatch specifically said denied 'by seniority,' not turned in too late.

Both stewards are aware of it.

It was probably a mistake.

 

[By The Book]

I went in Thursday morning ( I was on vacation) before start time to turn in the request and sign a route bid.

8 days ahead.

The text I from dispatch specifically said denied 'by seniority,' not turned in too late.

Both stewards are aware of it.

It was probably a mistake.

The mistake they'll continue to make, because there's nothing in the contract that makes them pay money for it. No need to go out of your way to please them for a while.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

How is it fair to the younger driver if you are unable or unwilling to plan in advance?

 

[iruhnman630]

Nothing unfair about seniority.

 

[iruhnman630]

8 days IS advance. Sorry, but time-off requests are not 'first-come-first-serve' or who needs it more.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

8 days IS advance. Sorry, but time-off requests are not 'first-come-first-serve' or who needs it more.

IMO, time off requests should be "first come, first served".

 

[upschuck]

IMO, time off requests should be "first come, first served".

So I could request x day off for the next 10, 20, 30 years, and I should get it?

x = most sought after day off.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

So I could request x day off for the next 10, 20, 30 years, and I should get it?

x = most sought after day off.

Within reason.

(Now I see why folks in the fantasy league don't like you as commish. )

 

[upschuck]

Within reason.

(Now I see why folks in the fantasy league don't like you as commish. )

So you would put limits on it, just like there is now, 8 days in advance.

 

[iruhnman630]

The lower seniority driver was planning on calling off Friday. Per the contract, call-in is forced to use svd if available. That is why he was added to the calender for svd for Friday, after my svd had been denied.

In other words, just call in every time.

 

[iruhnman630]

Being able to take necessary time off to maintain life outside of UPS is, to me, a health and wellness issue and should be accommodated whenever possible.

If, however, those requests cannot be granted legitimately by seniority, then it should just be a call-in day unless an option or svd day is available.

 

[Nimnim]

I know this isn't going to be a normal situation, but say your best mate is getting married and wants you in the wedding party. You give your request 3 months in advance and management oks it. 2 weeks before the wedding a senior driver has a championship softball game their child is playing in, and management tells you that your previously approved request is now denied because someone more senior wants the day off.

Both are valid reasons to want a day off, but would you really be ok in that situation? I used those examples as weddings are usually planned in advance and championships for sporting events aren't set until much closer to the game itself as the preceding games still need to be played.