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Pending Arbitration case-Really Insubordination?
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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 497745" data-attributes="member: 484"><p>There is something about this that bothers me. You are going to arbitration for refusing to go out on road? I hate to tell you, but that is insubordination. You work as instructed, then file.</p><p> </p><p>Now, there are mitigating issues. Your return to work early. Who said it was early? You? The doctor? Who? Why?</p><p> </p><p>Was this a workers comp injury or one that happened off the clock?</p><p> </p><p>Secondly, did you go see a doctor that day after you refused to go out and deliver? If not, why not?</p><p> </p><p>Did you call a shop steward in on this conversation, or did you just handle it yourself? I am assuming that you just plain refused to do his instructions. A very stupid move on your part.</p><p> </p><p>Those other drivers, did any have less seniority than you? Or are you the one at the bottom.</p><p> </p><p>See, the problem I have with this story is that there is no way UPS would open itself up to serious issues like you have posted here, no way. And if they did, the first hearing would have solved the issue very quickly, and you would have been back to work. </p><p> </p><p>The very fact that you are now in arbitration(the last stage after others being deadlocked) is not a good sign, and is an indication to me that there are serious issues you have forgotten to mention.</p><p> </p><p>Not trying to bust your chops, but I have been through this with too many drivers to smell when I am not getting the whole story, and nothing but the facts.</p><p> </p><p>As far as what your sup swore under oath, it has no bearing on the discussion. You refused a direct order, regardless of what that order was. And from the sound of it, you handled it all on your own, never ever a good idea.</p><p> </p><p>So from what I suspect is missing from your story, and where you are at the hearing level, I would say you can kiss your job goodbye. </p><p> </p><p>Arbitrators very very rarely ever overlook insubordination, regardless of the reason.</p><p> </p><p>d</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 497745, member: 484"] There is something about this that bothers me. You are going to arbitration for refusing to go out on road? I hate to tell you, but that is insubordination. You work as instructed, then file. Now, there are mitigating issues. Your return to work early. Who said it was early? You? The doctor? Who? Why? Was this a workers comp injury or one that happened off the clock? Secondly, did you go see a doctor that day after you refused to go out and deliver? If not, why not? Did you call a shop steward in on this conversation, or did you just handle it yourself? I am assuming that you just plain refused to do his instructions. A very stupid move on your part. Those other drivers, did any have less seniority than you? Or are you the one at the bottom. See, the problem I have with this story is that there is no way UPS would open itself up to serious issues like you have posted here, no way. And if they did, the first hearing would have solved the issue very quickly, and you would have been back to work. The very fact that you are now in arbitration(the last stage after others being deadlocked) is not a good sign, and is an indication to me that there are serious issues you have forgotten to mention. Not trying to bust your chops, but I have been through this with too many drivers to smell when I am not getting the whole story, and nothing but the facts. As far as what your sup swore under oath, it has no bearing on the discussion. You refused a direct order, regardless of what that order was. And from the sound of it, you handled it all on your own, never ever a good idea. So from what I suspect is missing from your story, and where you are at the hearing level, I would say you can kiss your job goodbye. Arbitrators very very rarely ever overlook insubordination, regardless of the reason. d [/QUOTE]
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