Pension change rumor

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by UPSmechanicinblue, Mar 11, 2015.

  1. UPSmechanicinblue

    UPSmechanicinblue Active Member

    Is there anything in the works where the UPS pension is going to deduct what we draw from social security? This would be like the UAW pension. This came in on the feeder network and drivers in my area are in an up roar about it. Thanks
     
  2. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    The pension plans are still negotiated in the contracts. If UPS wants to offset our pension by what we receive in Social Security, the union would have to agree to it.

    This would be a strike issue.
     
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  3. retired2000

    retired2000 Active Member

    Do not ever let them do this.
     
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  4. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    Let me know now so I can vote your arse to the curb.
     
  5. rod

    rod retired and happy

    That would be a major issue to strike over---unfortunately the majority would vote yes on the first offer because that is the thing to do now days.
     
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  6. jumpman23

    jumpman23 Oh Yeah

    Your dam right that would be a strike issue in a hot second lol.
     
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  7. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    And offer the PTers and young FTers a Dollar raise and it will be a done deal. Nobody under 40 believes the money for a pension or Social Security will be there.
     
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  8. rod

    rod retired and happy


    Not that it means anything but when I was in my 40's I also believed that SS wouldn't be there for me either. Also according to what I was taught in school the world should have been out of oil years ago and possibly blown up by an all out nuclear war by now.
     
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  9. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    We may be about the same age. I believed all that stuff also. I was never as negative as the young people are now. I have a 20 year old package handler son with 6 months seniority.
     
  10. The Milkman

    The Milkman Well-Known Member

    Yes..they would vote YES....If that ever came up for a vote.........they would be hanging themselves moreso than they did this last contract
     
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  11. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    It all started in 1982(?) when we voted for the two tier wage for PT. $8/hr was good money. 30 years later it was minimum wage and no benefits. Just another Walmart job.
     
  12. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    A yes vote would cost them $2000 per month when they retired. Or when they started collecting Social Security.

    This issue might change the yes to a no, if the issue ever even comes up in future contracts.
     
  13. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    You mean like Healthcare/Teamcare was?
     
  14. Mugarolla

    Mugarolla Light 'em up!

    The union agreed to Teamcare. The union wanted Teamcare.

    There weren't enough of us not already in Teamcare to stop it. People already in Teamcare did not see it as a concession. They already had Teamcare. They just wanted their raises. They voted me into it.

    The pension reduced by Social Security, if it is even a thought, will affect everyone, not just some like Teamcare did.

    Who will vote for a $2000 per month reduction in pension?

    Maybe some who think SS won't even be there when they retire and would rather have a bigger raise now if that's what UPS will offer to try and get it passed.

    But there will not be enough of those people to pass it.

    This is only speculation anyway. I'm sure UPS would love to have it but right now it is just a rumor on an Internet message board.
     
  15. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Weren't they still saying the world was flat when you first started?
     
  16. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    They made a movie about that time.
    [​IMG]
     
  17. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    I just want 30 and out any age. Brought back. Not a reduced pension if your not 55. 30 is enough
     
  18. Me too.
     
  19. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    25 and running out the door. F that extra couple dollars!
     
  20. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    But think about all that extra lube your u could buy.
     
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