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<blockquote data-quote="BrownBusDriver" data-source="post: 72960" data-attributes="member: 4563"><p>It took almost 3 months to train me for my new position on the A300. I have worked for UPS for more than 10 years. If the pilot group was to be replaced, even by seasoned and experienced pilots, it would take the training center more than a year to replace us. We barely were able to train the 275 new hires this year, many of who did work for USAir, Delta, and United. </p><p> </p><p>Our job requires by FAA standards, company specific training. This training isn't optional. The company tried to hire 300 pilots this year, but recurrent training doesn't allow for that much training. </p><p> </p><p>Could we be replaced, yes, but at what cost? It would surely make more sense to negotiate a fair and reasonable pace, than to replace us. It is also my strong belief that the company would find themselves at the same position of relationship with this new group in a very short amount of time. </p><p> </p><p>Are the crewmembers of UPS brainwashed by the union. Most, as a matter of fact, probably came to UPS without much experience or enthusiasm for unions. Frankly, former military officers don't consider themselves strong union supports. The facts are that our current union president is a former Marine General, and our secretary is a current Air Force General in the reserves. Most came to the company originally, very thankful for the job, having been through Eastern, Continental, Braniff, and Frontier airlines demise. Their experience with unions isn't what most would consider a sucessful past, but here they are, IPA supporters all. </p><p> </p><p>It isn't that the average IPA member supports all the union actions to the last man without question. I for one have been very critical of our actions in the past, and said so out loud. I am not alone. What you will find, to a man and woman at this point, a group convienced that the management of this company is willing to take advantage of us with out constrant to justify their own profit and ambitions. </p><p> </p><p>Pay cuts? Who working for a living here will have to take a pay cut for the pilots? The board, no. Our CEO has had over 25% worth of raises in the past two years alone. The majority stock holders outside of funds are still the managers. They are the only ones truly worried about cuts, cuts in their options and bonuses. </p><p> </p><p>I for one have never gotten a bonus, I work for a living, as do many of the managers, but my only compensation is that which the IPA negotiates on my behalf, with my support.</p><p> </p><p>You might get some Delta pilots, but the fact is other than the faces, they would in the end reflect the same concerns and expectations that the current pilots.</p><p> </p><p>BrownBusDriver</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownBusDriver, post: 72960, member: 4563"] It took almost 3 months to train me for my new position on the A300. I have worked for UPS for more than 10 years. If the pilot group was to be replaced, even by seasoned and experienced pilots, it would take the training center more than a year to replace us. We barely were able to train the 275 new hires this year, many of who did work for USAir, Delta, and United. Our job requires by FAA standards, company specific training. This training isn't optional. The company tried to hire 300 pilots this year, but recurrent training doesn't allow for that much training. Could we be replaced, yes, but at what cost? It would surely make more sense to negotiate a fair and reasonable pace, than to replace us. It is also my strong belief that the company would find themselves at the same position of relationship with this new group in a very short amount of time. Are the crewmembers of UPS brainwashed by the union. Most, as a matter of fact, probably came to UPS without much experience or enthusiasm for unions. Frankly, former military officers don't consider themselves strong union supports. The facts are that our current union president is a former Marine General, and our secretary is a current Air Force General in the reserves. Most came to the company originally, very thankful for the job, having been through Eastern, Continental, Braniff, and Frontier airlines demise. Their experience with unions isn't what most would consider a sucessful past, but here they are, IPA supporters all. It isn't that the average IPA member supports all the union actions to the last man without question. I for one have been very critical of our actions in the past, and said so out loud. I am not alone. What you will find, to a man and woman at this point, a group convienced that the management of this company is willing to take advantage of us with out constrant to justify their own profit and ambitions. Pay cuts? Who working for a living here will have to take a pay cut for the pilots? The board, no. Our CEO has had over 25% worth of raises in the past two years alone. The majority stock holders outside of funds are still the managers. They are the only ones truly worried about cuts, cuts in their options and bonuses. I for one have never gotten a bonus, I work for a living, as do many of the managers, but my only compensation is that which the IPA negotiates on my behalf, with my support. You might get some Delta pilots, but the fact is other than the faces, they would in the end reflect the same concerns and expectations that the current pilots. BrownBusDriver [/QUOTE]
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