Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
UPS Subsidiaries
UPS Airline / Gateway
Pilots - Here we go!
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="BrownBusDriver" data-source="post: 72974" data-attributes="member: 4563"><p>Why wouldn't UPS want to settle, and set our contract as the standard, putting FedEx in the position of having to settle with their pilots based on our contract. We have been waiting for years, and for some items under discussions, over a decade. There are pilots here who have returned to lower positions to accrue retirement, which we are trying to fix in this contract. They would like to retire, but can not afford to with our current plan. Over 200 guys would leave as soon as this contract is finished. </p><p> </p><p>The pilots have been very patient for well over 3 years. It is time to settle this. It has become time to go public with our grievances. I know this is very unsettling for others in the company who are not familiar with our negotations, and there is alot of bad information out there. There are management guys on another forum out there impersonating pilots trying to cause unrest.</p><p> </p><p>We have with the passing of time come to the conclusion that without this public pressure on the company, they will not settle. We have been "slow rolled" time and time again. Time is on the company's side, not ours.</p><p> </p><p>It is time to force this negotiations to a settlement, on way or another. I frankly expected no less than it being where it is now. I hate that I was right. I know everyone considers union members as radicals, but this pilot group is a very, very conservative bunch overall. Our union leader is former managment from Peoples Express airline, and a former Marine General, he is not a radical. I do think that he understands tatics, and has been forced to a more agressive approach. </p><p> </p><p>FedEx is more than a year behind us. I don't think this group is willing to wait another year.</p><p> </p><p>BrownBusDriver</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownBusDriver, post: 72974, member: 4563"] Why wouldn't UPS want to settle, and set our contract as the standard, putting FedEx in the position of having to settle with their pilots based on our contract. We have been waiting for years, and for some items under discussions, over a decade. There are pilots here who have returned to lower positions to accrue retirement, which we are trying to fix in this contract. They would like to retire, but can not afford to with our current plan. Over 200 guys would leave as soon as this contract is finished. The pilots have been very patient for well over 3 years. It is time to settle this. It has become time to go public with our grievances. I know this is very unsettling for others in the company who are not familiar with our negotations, and there is alot of bad information out there. There are management guys on another forum out there impersonating pilots trying to cause unrest. We have with the passing of time come to the conclusion that without this public pressure on the company, they will not settle. We have been "slow rolled" time and time again. Time is on the company's side, not ours. It is time to force this negotiations to a settlement, on way or another. I frankly expected no less than it being where it is now. I hate that I was right. I know everyone considers union members as radicals, but this pilot group is a very, very conservative bunch overall. Our union leader is former managment from Peoples Express airline, and a former Marine General, he is not a radical. I do think that he understands tatics, and has been forced to a more agressive approach. FedEx is more than a year behind us. I don't think this group is willing to wait another year. BrownBusDriver [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Home
Forums
UPS Subsidiaries
UPS Airline / Gateway
Pilots - Here we go!
Top