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<blockquote data-quote="BrownBusDriver" data-source="post: 73095" data-attributes="member: 4563"><p>I have never said the company offered anything. I have voiced the opinion due to the many our cries of "look at pilots at ....." that one should not expect us to take a pay cut based on pilots at other jobs, in other industries. There are some here, and many at the company which want to spread disinformation. I have tried to the best of my ability to add levity to this discussion. I am no insider, nor am I rich by most standards, have never had caviar. I grew up in a place that didn't even have a McDonalds until after I left for college.<G> </p><p> </p><p>You show moments of willingness to discuss, but in the end, you attacked with words like to paint me as just another rich, self-centered airline pilot. </p><p> </p><p>I have heard all this before, and I'm sure I have a number of years more to endure. This is the simply tactic of "attack when you don't have anything more thoughtful to add".</p><p> </p><p>I don't know how to justify anyone's compensation. I can't drive my aircraft door to door and deliver. Drivers can make a feeder or package car swim the Pacific, and managers can't get any of it done with out all of us.</p><p> </p><p>So here we sit, disgruntled and aggravated, and from a leadership point, who's job is it to set the standard of behavior and make the efforts of reconcilation? I have always assumed that the actions of those at the bottom reflect the attitude and example presented from the top. </p><p> </p><p>As I have said before, 2600 men and women from all over the globe didn't arrive at UPS unhappy and disgruntled, but here we are. Who's responsibility is that? </p><p> </p><p>I will let someone else take the lead here for awhile, I'm sure most are tired of my opinions, plus it has come down to me, you, and the retired guy. I don't think at this point we have any more ground in common to discuss.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownBusDriver, post: 73095, member: 4563"] I have never said the company offered anything. I have voiced the opinion due to the many our cries of "look at pilots at ....." that one should not expect us to take a pay cut based on pilots at other jobs, in other industries. There are some here, and many at the company which want to spread disinformation. I have tried to the best of my ability to add levity to this discussion. I am no insider, nor am I rich by most standards, have never had caviar. I grew up in a place that didn't even have a McDonalds until after I left for college.<G> You show moments of willingness to discuss, but in the end, you attacked with words like to paint me as just another rich, self-centered airline pilot. I have heard all this before, and I'm sure I have a number of years more to endure. This is the simply tactic of "attack when you don't have anything more thoughtful to add". I don't know how to justify anyone's compensation. I can't drive my aircraft door to door and deliver. Drivers can make a feeder or package car swim the Pacific, and managers can't get any of it done with out all of us. So here we sit, disgruntled and aggravated, and from a leadership point, who's job is it to set the standard of behavior and make the efforts of reconcilation? I have always assumed that the actions of those at the bottom reflect the attitude and example presented from the top. As I have said before, 2600 men and women from all over the globe didn't arrive at UPS unhappy and disgruntled, but here we are. Who's responsibility is that? I will let someone else take the lead here for awhile, I'm sure most are tired of my opinions, plus it has come down to me, you, and the retired guy. I don't think at this point we have any more ground in common to discuss. [/QUOTE]
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