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<blockquote data-quote="traveler" data-source="post: 75478" data-attributes="member: 1954"><p>I, and I believe most others on this board appreciate the information you gave here. Up to this point I wasn't sure just what the hang-ups were.</p><p> </p><p>I would like to comment on a few of these points.</p><p> </p><p>1) Compensation - I feel you should be paid fairly. Does that mean more than anyone else? Not necessarily. I think the fact that you have a job with virtually no chance of give-backs and little or no chance of downsizing has to be worth more than being the highest paid when it includes uncertainty as to whether or not you will have a job tomorrow.</p><p> </p><p>2) Retirement medical - Can't argue about this as I would want the same benefit.</p><p> </p><p>3) Scheduling - In your shoes, I would have to go for the same as you seem to be asking.</p><p> </p><p>4) Retirement - Being retired myself, sure, I would love to get more than I do now but UPS has never missed a check and I knew through my career what to expect. Your 15% alone doesn't tell the story such as 'after what length of service' is that 15% being paid?</p><p> </p><p>5) Scope - <strong>"<u>NO OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOB</u>!" "Where would this flying take place? China, India. IPA JOBS going to foreign pilots. OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS! UPS PR is in the media saying, "no pilot has lost their job, matter a fact, we are hiring"."</strong> Here I would have to strongly disagree. One of the ways a company remains profitable is to get the job done well and at as reasonable cost as possible. I know you folks are much more mobile than drivers but do you think the teamsters should look at Germany of France and say "you should have American teamsters working those jobs"? I have seen many "Union jobs" lost over the years and companies fail due to overreaching union people. I am NOT union bashing, unions do certainly have their place but some surely overreach. I would rather see a healthy company with no jobs lost and reasonable growth than see the company sag under the weight of paying those high wages where the job can reasonably done for less in foreign countries.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="traveler, post: 75478, member: 1954"] I, and I believe most others on this board appreciate the information you gave here. Up to this point I wasn't sure just what the hang-ups were. I would like to comment on a few of these points. 1) Compensation - I feel you should be paid fairly. Does that mean more than anyone else? Not necessarily. I think the fact that you have a job with virtually no chance of give-backs and little or no chance of downsizing has to be worth more than being the highest paid when it includes uncertainty as to whether or not you will have a job tomorrow. 2) Retirement medical - Can't argue about this as I would want the same benefit. 3) Scheduling - In your shoes, I would have to go for the same as you seem to be asking. 4) Retirement - Being retired myself, sure, I would love to get more than I do now but UPS has never missed a check and I knew through my career what to expect. Your 15% alone doesn't tell the story such as 'after what length of service' is that 15% being paid? 5) Scope - [B]"[U]NO OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOB[/U]!" "Where would this flying take place? China, India. IPA JOBS going to foreign pilots. OUTSOURCING AMERICAN JOBS! UPS PR is in the media saying, "no pilot has lost their job, matter a fact, we are hiring"."[/B] Here I would have to strongly disagree. One of the ways a company remains profitable is to get the job done well and at as reasonable cost as possible. I know you folks are much more mobile than drivers but do you think the teamsters should look at Germany of France and say "you should have American teamsters working those jobs"? I have seen many "Union jobs" lost over the years and companies fail due to overreaching union people. I am NOT union bashing, unions do certainly have their place but some surely overreach. I would rather see a healthy company with no jobs lost and reasonable growth than see the company sag under the weight of paying those high wages where the job can reasonably done for less in foreign countries. [/QUOTE]
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