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<blockquote data-quote="DELACROIX" data-source="post: 3560052" data-attributes="member: 49065"><p>Would be fair to state that your were not around during the "97" strike, and your statement about the "UPS Retirement Plan" just covering your beer money means that you really do not have the time to really know what this contract is about. I like your business like attitude, but you lack the understanding of just why the Union workforce just voted 93 percent for a work stoppage. What would be your take on just how much Wage, Health and Welfare and Pension increases we should be getting, does one dollar per hour in each sound like a fair share, or would it cause such a strain that the company will have to go bankrupt. If the union did negotiate every demand that the Teamster's committees it would be a good reason for them to raise their shipping costs to 6 or 7 percent, just blame it on being in a collective bargaining agreement.</p><p></p><p>It may of been before your time but back in the 80's and 90's we were getting a dollar per hour wage increase, most of the contracts were three years. I grant you this Pension and Health and Welfare costs have increased, hence the last two contracts being settled months before without a strike vote. </p><p></p><p>This contract will never be voted in prior to 1 Aug, we all are starting to understand that the timetable narrowing. If a sub par master contract is presented by the Union it will be voted down, and just forget about any of the supplements getting passed. To help you understand that it is not about the negotiated monetary contributions, maybe you were not involved with some of the decision making during last peak but from my limited perspective it was a total failure. The weather was cooperating and we were still leaving thousands of customer's packages in their trailers because of poor, poor planning. I still remember how I felt with over 40 years of service with this company, I keep repeating the statement "that this is not UPS". Since you are in IE what was the reasoning going on then?</p><p></p><p>If a work stoppage does occur it will not be about facts and figures, we are not a piece of meat stamped with a number. We are human beings and subject to a emotion called "passion" and I sure see it with here on the ground level, anger is growing and like you stated even if it is a excellent contract it might be voted down because of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DELACROIX, post: 3560052, member: 49065"] Would be fair to state that your were not around during the "97" strike, and your statement about the "UPS Retirement Plan" just covering your beer money means that you really do not have the time to really know what this contract is about. I like your business like attitude, but you lack the understanding of just why the Union workforce just voted 93 percent for a work stoppage. What would be your take on just how much Wage, Health and Welfare and Pension increases we should be getting, does one dollar per hour in each sound like a fair share, or would it cause such a strain that the company will have to go bankrupt. If the union did negotiate every demand that the Teamster's committees it would be a good reason for them to raise their shipping costs to 6 or 7 percent, just blame it on being in a collective bargaining agreement. It may of been before your time but back in the 80's and 90's we were getting a dollar per hour wage increase, most of the contracts were three years. I grant you this Pension and Health and Welfare costs have increased, hence the last two contracts being settled months before without a strike vote. This contract will never be voted in prior to 1 Aug, we all are starting to understand that the timetable narrowing. If a sub par master contract is presented by the Union it will be voted down, and just forget about any of the supplements getting passed. To help you understand that it is not about the negotiated monetary contributions, maybe you were not involved with some of the decision making during last peak but from my limited perspective it was a total failure. The weather was cooperating and we were still leaving thousands of customer's packages in their trailers because of poor, poor planning. I still remember how I felt with over 40 years of service with this company, I keep repeating the statement "that this is not UPS". Since you are in IE what was the reasoning going on then? If a work stoppage does occur it will not be about facts and figures, we are not a piece of meat stamped with a number. We are human beings and subject to a emotion called "passion" and I sure see it with here on the ground level, anger is growing and like you stated even if it is a excellent contract it might be voted down because of it. [/QUOTE]
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