Preloaders who have Orion.

[cosmo1]

You don't have to know how to load 'em to deliver 'em.

The corollary to that, Dave, is you probably couldn't load them even if you could deliver them.





Try it some time and get back to us.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Absolutely this. I'm on both sides as well. Drivers who never preloaded, preloaded briefly or preloaded in the past should understand that if a permanent PTer gives them a bad load, it probably wasn't because they weren't trying. These days preloaders get drilled very heavily (even more so than just a few years ago) and can't control how it's managed to the extent drivers can manage their work.

Choosing between one or the other, I'd take a day on the road over preload every time.

Especially when you are earning 1/3 to 1/2 as much an hour as a driver who at least gets to sit down half the day. Most drivers would rather drive then have to work the preload any day the sun is shining. Bad weather is another issue.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

I was told we are writing all 4 numbers so the driver can stand at the bulkhead door and see every number clearly, I have been told to backfill the shelfs with larger packages and put smalls, letters, bags and other packages on the front of the shelf lip loaded, they tell us we HAVE to write all 4 numbers even when the PAL is facing out. I was also told that we cannot peel the PAL's as a mean of trying to get out of writing the numbers.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I was told we are writing all 4 numbers so the driver can stand at the bulkhead door and see every number clearly, I have been told to backfill the shelfs with larger packages and put smalls, letters, bags and other packages on the front of the shelf lip loaded, they tell us we HAVE to write all 4 numbers even when the PAL is facing out. I was also told that we cannot peel the PAL's as a mean of trying to get out of writing the numbers.

Absolute waste of time.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

Absolute waste of time.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way.

 

[werenotthepostoffice]

I would just like the preloader to get it on the right shelf or even the right car for that matter.

Stevie Wonder loads your truck too?

 

[Drink Craft Beer]

I was told we are writing all 4 numbers so the driver can stand at the bulkhead door and see every number clearly, I have been told to backfill the shelfs with larger packages and put smalls, letters, bags and other packages on the front of the shelf lip loaded, they tell us we HAVE to write all 4 numbers even when the PAL is facing out. I was also told that we cannot peel the PAL's as a mean of trying to get out of writing the numbers.

And lemme guess?

After expecting to do all of that that, you get asked why you're missing packages going down the belt....... that eventually have to be sent around again?

 

[wayfair]

Absolute waste of time.

not really...

Our On-car's are training new drivers that when they are delivering a package, after stop/completing, they are told to memorize the last 4 of the HIN for the next stop.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

not really...

Our On-car's are training new drivers that when they are delivering a package, after stop/completing, they are told to memorize the last 4 of the HIN for the next stop.

Also an absolute waste of time.

 

[wayfair]

Also an absolute waste of time.

that's ORION for ya

 

[porkwagon]

A good driver doesn't use those numbers.

I'm not even sure what those numbers mean. I'm old school. I look at the shipping label.

 

[porkwagon]

Also an absolute waste of time.

Yeah, no. No way I'll be doing that.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

that's ORION for ya

Has less to do with Orion and more to do with the quality (or lack thereof) of our new hires.

 

[wayfair]

Has less to do with Orion and more to do with the quality (or lack thereof) of our new hires.

has everything to do with ORION, that's why the new drivers are being trained to memorize the last 4 HIN numbers for the next stop as I typed earlier...

as for the new style of load, load quality is sh*... seems every address label is either facing down, away or against the wall/floor, but by golly the scribbles can be seen, not deciphered lol

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

has everything to do with ORION, that's why the new drivers are being trained to memorize the last 4 HIN numbers for the next stop as I typed earlier...

as for the new style of load, load quality is sh*... seems every address label is either facing down, away or against the wall/floor, but by golly the scribbles can be seen, not deciphered lol

As I said above, this has less to do with Orion and more to do with the quality of our new hires.

 

[PT Car Washer]

As I said above, this has less to do with Orion and more to do with the quality of our new hires.

You pay peanuts, you hire monkeys. Improve the pay and the quality of new hires will rise.

 

[HardknocksUPSer]

And lemme guess?

After expecting to do all of that that, you get asked why you're missing packages going down the belt....... that eventually have to be sent around again?

I'm at the end of the belt with a set of rollers so I pile my on there as high as I need to, it's okay (in the sups eyes) to leave it stacked on the roller but it's not okay to stack it behind the car, who knows, you know how they are. Anyhow yes the others up the belt from me who miss get fussed at daily.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

You pay peanuts, you hire monkeys. Improve the pay and the quality of new hires will rise.

I was referring to new drivers.

 

[cosmo1]

I was referring to new drivers.

Maybe you should step up your 'chats.'

Soon, all new drivers could be the best of the best.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Maybe you should step up your 'chats.'

Soon, all new drivers could be the best of the best.

The drivers that I have worked with are generally better than the ones who preferred to learn the job in their own.