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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 2001476" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>YOU, as a historical revisionist (as most typical republicans are), dont understand the circumstances of our constitution, the disscussions, and the bills that followed the creation of the second amendment in 1791 in the first congress.</p><p></p><p>In 1791, there were no national guard in the states, and when THEY were created for STATE protections, the need for MILITIAS went out the window.</p><p></p><p>In 1903, the National Guard was officially the protectors for the state.</p><p></p><p>"We recognize December 13th as the birthday of the National Guard. On this date in 1636, the first militia regiments in North America were organized in Massachusetts. Based upon an order of the Massachusetts Bay Colony's General Court, the colony's militia was organized into three permanent regiments to better defend the colony. Today, the descendants of these first regiments - the <strong><a href="http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/inf/0181in.htm" target="_blank">181st Infantry</a></strong>, the <strong><a href="http://www.nationalguard.mil/Portals/31/Documents/About/HowWeBegan/182nd%20Infantry%20Lineage%20and%20Heritage.pdf" target="_blank">182nd Infantry</a></strong>, the <strong><a href="http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/fa/0101fa.htm" target="_blank">101st Field Artillery</a></strong>, and the <strong><a href="http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/eng/0101enbn.htm" target="_blank">101st Engineer Battalion</a></strong> of the Massachusetts Army National Guard – share the distinction of being the oldest units in the U.S. military. December 13, 1636, thus marks the beginning of the organized militia, and the birth of the National Guard's oldest organized units is symbolic of the founding of all the state, territory, and District of Columbia militias that collectively make up today's National Guard."</p><p></p><p></p><p>At NO TIME in our history, were militias UNREGULATED, or occupying forces against the USA or the State.</p><p></p><p>The concept that MILITIAS were just a bunch of yahoos with guns with "hate the government" as a motto is a laughable at best.</p><p></p><p>Quote:</p><p>"Citizen-soldiers" have come a long way since the American Revolution. The Army National Guard has fought in every major war in which the United States has been involved, from the American Revolution to the vietnam war and the 2003 war in Iraq. Since the end of the Vietnam War, the Guard has been engaged in all U.S. national defense missions. Not only is the National Guard devoted to the defense of the United States and its allies, it is also involved in a number of other activities, such as dealing with emergencies like civil disturbances, riots, and natural disasters, and helping law enforcement agencies to keep illegal drugs off the streets."</p><p></p><p>Keeping and bearing arms, is something that the military does. Since its inception, the Militias, regulated by the US GOVERNMENT, have always mandated keeping GUNS in an armory.</p><p></p><p>You on the other hand, want to distract away from the original conversation about the structure of the second amendment itself and the placement of the commas which affect the meaning of the second amendment.</p><p></p><p>NO matter how many times you repeat it the way you want it to read, just remember, you are CHANGING how it is written, and once you do that, you change its meaning.</p><p></p><p>TOS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 2001476, member: 17969"] YOU, as a historical revisionist (as most typical republicans are), dont understand the circumstances of our constitution, the disscussions, and the bills that followed the creation of the second amendment in 1791 in the first congress. In 1791, there were no national guard in the states, and when THEY were created for STATE protections, the need for MILITIAS went out the window. In 1903, the National Guard was officially the protectors for the state. "We recognize December 13th as the birthday of the National Guard. On this date in 1636, the first militia regiments in North America were organized in Massachusetts. Based upon an order of the Massachusetts Bay Colony's General Court, the colony's militia was organized into three permanent regiments to better defend the colony. Today, the descendants of these first regiments - the [B][URL='http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/inf/0181in.htm']181st Infantry[/URL][/B], the [B][URL='http://www.nationalguard.mil/Portals/31/Documents/About/HowWeBegan/182nd%20Infantry%20Lineage%20and%20Heritage.pdf']182nd Infantry[/URL][/B], the [B][URL='http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/fa/0101fa.htm']101st Field Artillery[/URL][/B], and the [B][URL='http://www.history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/eng/0101enbn.htm']101st Engineer Battalion[/URL][/B] of the Massachusetts Army National Guard – share the distinction of being the oldest units in the U.S. military. December 13, 1636, thus marks the beginning of the organized militia, and the birth of the National Guard's oldest organized units is symbolic of the founding of all the state, territory, and District of Columbia militias that collectively make up today's National Guard." At NO TIME in our history, were militias UNREGULATED, or occupying forces against the USA or the State. The concept that MILITIAS were just a bunch of yahoos with guns with "hate the government" as a motto is a laughable at best. Quote: "Citizen-soldiers" have come a long way since the American Revolution. The Army National Guard has fought in every major war in which the United States has been involved, from the American Revolution to the vietnam war and the 2003 war in Iraq. Since the end of the Vietnam War, the Guard has been engaged in all U.S. national defense missions. Not only is the National Guard devoted to the defense of the United States and its allies, it is also involved in a number of other activities, such as dealing with emergencies like civil disturbances, riots, and natural disasters, and helping law enforcement agencies to keep illegal drugs off the streets." Keeping and bearing arms, is something that the military does. Since its inception, the Militias, regulated by the US GOVERNMENT, have always mandated keeping GUNS in an armory. You on the other hand, want to distract away from the original conversation about the structure of the second amendment itself and the placement of the commas which affect the meaning of the second amendment. NO matter how many times you repeat it the way you want it to read, just remember, you are CHANGING how it is written, and once you do that, you change its meaning. TOS. [/QUOTE]
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