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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 2003972" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>None of you understand what a PREAMBLE is, and THAT is the primary problem with your logic.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How you backwoods midwesterners interpret standard english construction is laughable.</p><p></p><p>oh, those pesky commas, "they dont mean anything" in YOUR world. Maybe you think commas are placed into the second amendment by accident? or maybe the founders didnt understand basic english?</p><p></p><p>The real problem with your midwestern edumacation, is that you dont understand how the constitution was constructed in the first place.</p><p></p><p>None of you understand what a PREAMBLE is, and THAT is the primary problem with your logic.</p><p></p><p>Let me see if I can assist you in your understanding..</p><p></p><p></p><p>pre·am·ble</p><p>ˈprēˌambəl/</p><p><em>noun</em></p><p>noun: <strong>preamble</strong>; plural noun: <strong>preambles</strong></p><p>a preliminary or preparatory statement; an introduction.</p><p>"what she said was by way of a preamble"</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><span style="color: #b30000"><strong>Law</strong></span><br /> <strong><span style="font-size: 22px">the introductory part of a statute or deed, stating its purpose, aims, and justification</span></strong>.</li> </ul><p></p><p>This is a simple concept.</p><p></p><p>Lets use another example:</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">A <em>preamble</em> is a brief introduction to a speech, like the <em>Preamble</em> to the Constitution that starts out "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union...do ordain and establish this Constitution."</span></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px"><em>Preamble</em> comes from the Latin <em>praeambulus</em> which means "walking before." And that's what a <em>preamble</em> does — it "walks" before a speech, often explaining what's coming. It's like the White Rabbit introducing the Queen of Hearts in <em>Alice in Wonderland</em>. Since it goes before a speech, think of it as a <em>pre-ramble</em>. A <em>preamble</em> is usually used for formal documents; you wouldn't include one in a text to your best friend.</span></strong></p><p></p><p>Hopefully, you are capable of reading comprehension and can understand how the constitution was constructed.</p><p></p><p>Now, lets look at the preamble to the US Constitution, the commas and the INTENT. This will be on the test, so pay attention to detail of the use of the subject, the qualifiers and COMMAS.</p><p></p><p>We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.</p><p></p><p>Breakdown:</p><p></p><p>"We the people of the United States<strong><span style="font-size: 26px">,</span></strong> ..." "in order to form a more perfect union <strong>, </strong>.." "establish justice<strong>,</strong>.." "insure domestic tranquility<strong>,</strong>..." "provide for the common defense<strong>,</strong>..." "promote the general welfare<strong>,</strong>..." "and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our prosperity<strong>,</strong>..." "do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."</p><p></p><p>Now, with your backwoods education, NONE of the information that comes after the first comma after "we the people of the United States,.." has anything to do with "WE THE PEOPLE..."</p><p></p><p>But, in reality, EVERYTHING after the first COMMA QUALIFIES "WE THE PEOPLE..."</p><p></p><p>Thats what a preamble does. Its sets the tone for the entire meaning of the subject.</p><p></p><p>Only in the second amendment, do GUN owners want to ignore this premise and ignore not only the PREAMBLE, but ALL THE COMMAS that connect the fragments of the second amendment to the preamble.</p><p></p><p>It easy to understand why. </p><p></p><p>The second amendment DOESNT say what gun owners want it to say, so they eliminate the COMMA between the third fragment and the fourth fragment and CREATE a whole new sentence right out of the middle of something else.</p><p></p><p>NEWFIE did what every other gun owner does... He quotes the second amendment like this:</p><p></p><p>"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."</p><p></p><p>But it doesnt say that in this form, which is a stand alone sentence. Its a fragmented sentence, minus the comma which separates them.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully, you can understand this simple english concept.</p><p></p><p>TOS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 2003972, member: 17969"] None of you understand what a PREAMBLE is, and THAT is the primary problem with your logic. How you backwoods midwesterners interpret standard english construction is laughable. oh, those pesky commas, "they dont mean anything" in YOUR world. Maybe you think commas are placed into the second amendment by accident? or maybe the founders didnt understand basic english? The real problem with your midwestern edumacation, is that you dont understand how the constitution was constructed in the first place. None of you understand what a PREAMBLE is, and THAT is the primary problem with your logic. Let me see if I can assist you in your understanding.. pre·am·ble ˈprēˌambəl/ [I]noun[/I] noun: [B]preamble[/B]; plural noun: [B]preambles[/B] a preliminary or preparatory statement; an introduction. "what she said was by way of a preamble" [LIST] [*][COLOR=#b30000][B]Law[/B][/COLOR] [B][SIZE=6]the introductory part of a statute or deed, stating its purpose, aims, and justification[/SIZE][/B]. [/LIST] This is a simple concept. Lets use another example: [B][SIZE=6]A [I]preamble[/I] is a brief introduction to a speech, like the [I]Preamble[/I] to the Constitution that starts out "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union...do ordain and establish this Constitution."[/SIZE] [SIZE=6][I]Preamble[/I] comes from the Latin [I]praeambulus[/I] which means "walking before." And that's what a [I]preamble[/I] does — it "walks" before a speech, often explaining what's coming. It's like the White Rabbit introducing the Queen of Hearts in [I]Alice in Wonderland[/I]. Since it goes before a speech, think of it as a [I]pre-ramble[/I]. A [I]preamble[/I] is usually used for formal documents; you wouldn't include one in a text to your best friend.[/SIZE][/B] Hopefully, you are capable of reading comprehension and can understand how the constitution was constructed. Now, lets look at the preamble to the US Constitution, the commas and the INTENT. This will be on the test, so pay attention to detail of the use of the subject, the qualifiers and COMMAS. We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. Breakdown: "We the people of the United States[B][SIZE=7],[/SIZE][/B] ..." "in order to form a more perfect union [B], [/B].." "establish justice[B],[/B].." "insure domestic tranquility[B],[/B]..." "provide for the common defense[B],[/B]..." "promote the general welfare[B],[/B]..." "and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our prosperity[B],[/B]..." "do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America." Now, with your backwoods education, NONE of the information that comes after the first comma after "we the people of the United States,.." has anything to do with "WE THE PEOPLE..." But, in reality, EVERYTHING after the first COMMA QUALIFIES "WE THE PEOPLE..." Thats what a preamble does. Its sets the tone for the entire meaning of the subject. Only in the second amendment, do GUN owners want to ignore this premise and ignore not only the PREAMBLE, but ALL THE COMMAS that connect the fragments of the second amendment to the preamble. It easy to understand why. The second amendment DOESNT say what gun owners want it to say, so they eliminate the COMMA between the third fragment and the fourth fragment and CREATE a whole new sentence right out of the middle of something else. NEWFIE did what every other gun owner does... He quotes the second amendment like this: "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." But it doesnt say that in this form, which is a stand alone sentence. Its a fragmented sentence, minus the comma which separates them. Hopefully, you can understand this simple english concept. TOS. [/QUOTE]
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