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<blockquote data-quote="susiedriver" data-source="post: 71682" data-attributes="member: 1848"><p>mac,</p><p></p><p>No name calling on my part, I prefer an intelligent debate.</p><p></p><p>I honestly don't know where you come up with your generalizations of what you perceive to be my beliefs. </p><p></p><p>Comparing me to far right theo-facists? Come on, trying to inflame my emotions, pick a fight? Why? And then call me a thief? So much for the name calling, my friend.</p><p></p><p>I don't know where you feel the state steals from you. Your taxes, I'm guessing? I feel we get a good deal from our taxes, for the most part. I wish they were lower for me, but I can't complain. I'm one of the lucky folks in this country. I have everything I need. I eat well, travel, like in comparative safety. I possess things my grandparents couldn't even imagine of. Life is good.</p><p></p><p>Like I've said in other threads, if you don't like taxes, there is a country close by where you don't have the taxes you do here, nor do you have the services, and the water may not be potable and the public safety may be guaranteed by bribe.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>mac, I'm very much more individualist, rather than collectivist, though I am a dove. Believe me, you don't have to stay here, why do you? For the money, for the opportunities for you and your children, I would wager, and you call me the thief.</p><p> </p><p>I disagree with your statement that America was founded as a libertarian state. I prefer to think that though some of the framers could be called 'classic liberals', they were wisely tempered by the 'social liberals'. The <em>Wealth of Nations </em>wasn't even published until 1776.</p><p></p><p></p><p> On another topic, pony up and pay for a good defensive driving course for your daughter. I know that BMW used to offer one aimed at new drivers that was very good. It was available at their Spartanburg facility. Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiedriver, post: 71682, member: 1848"] mac, No name calling on my part, I prefer an intelligent debate. I honestly don't know where you come up with your generalizations of what you perceive to be my beliefs. Comparing me to far right theo-facists? Come on, trying to inflame my emotions, pick a fight? Why? And then call me a thief? So much for the name calling, my friend. I don't know where you feel the state steals from you. Your taxes, I'm guessing? I feel we get a good deal from our taxes, for the most part. I wish they were lower for me, but I can't complain. I'm one of the lucky folks in this country. I have everything I need. I eat well, travel, like in comparative safety. I possess things my grandparents couldn't even imagine of. Life is good. Like I've said in other threads, if you don't like taxes, there is a country close by where you don't have the taxes you do here, nor do you have the services, and the water may not be potable and the public safety may be guaranteed by bribe. mac, I'm very much more individualist, rather than collectivist, though I am a dove. Believe me, you don't have to stay here, why do you? For the money, for the opportunities for you and your children, I would wager, and you call me the thief. I disagree with your statement that America was founded as a libertarian state. I prefer to think that though some of the framers could be called 'classic liberals', they were wisely tempered by the 'social liberals'. The [I]Wealth of Nations [/I]wasn't even published until 1776. On another topic, pony up and pay for a good defensive driving course for your daughter. I know that BMW used to offer one aimed at new drivers that was very good. It was available at their Spartanburg facility. Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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