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<blockquote data-quote="PiedmontSteward" data-source="post: 2173857" data-attributes="member: 42270"><p>You're not permitted to select a steward when you're being disciplined; the company is simply required to have one present. If you're filing a grievance or want to have an informal discussion outside of the discipline process, then you can select whichever steward you wish.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It depends on your supplement. I'm not in your area, but in mine seniority applies only to classification not necessarily station/load/set/etc. Meaning your seniority allows gives you the right to work in small sort, but not to pick a specific work area in small sort (sorting, debag, bagging, or this "SSLAW" machine that I'm not familiar with) unless there's a pay rate differential (which would be a different classification.)</p><p></p><p></p><p>You can grieve anything. The thing you're grieving being an actual violation, however, is a different story. The rule of thumb regarding contract violations is to "work now, grieve later" meaning you can only refuse an unsafe, unethical, or immoral work order but not one that's a violation of the contract. For example, a package car driver can be forced to run a route in violation of his seniority and would have to grieve it later on. If he refuses, he could be fired for gross insubordination. The driver <strong>can</strong> refuse to drive a package car that he believes to be unsafe in good faith, ie. bald tires, broken headlights, etc. or <strong>can </strong>refuse to sheet a package in a way that would be a dishonest (unethical) act. I'll leave "immoral" up to your imagination.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Having a <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />ty steward isn't a violation of the contract, but said steward's actions are likely a violation of his ethical responsibilities as a union representative. Keep in mind that not getting your way or getting dinged with a file write up doesn't necessarily mean a steward is in bed with the company. Regardless, you need to be having that conversation with your business agent, not the company.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Depends on your local supplement, but in my area junior employees must be "sold out" to other areas ahead of senior workers provided that the employees are "qualified" to perform the work. You'll have to "fight for your right" via the grievance procedure not by being insubordinate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PiedmontSteward, post: 2173857, member: 42270"] You're not permitted to select a steward when you're being disciplined; the company is simply required to have one present. If you're filing a grievance or want to have an informal discussion outside of the discipline process, then you can select whichever steward you wish. It depends on your supplement. I'm not in your area, but in mine seniority applies only to classification not necessarily station/load/set/etc. Meaning your seniority allows gives you the right to work in small sort, but not to pick a specific work area in small sort (sorting, debag, bagging, or this "SSLAW" machine that I'm not familiar with) unless there's a pay rate differential (which would be a different classification.) You can grieve anything. The thing you're grieving being an actual violation, however, is a different story. The rule of thumb regarding contract violations is to "work now, grieve later" meaning you can only refuse an unsafe, unethical, or immoral work order but not one that's a violation of the contract. For example, a package car driver can be forced to run a route in violation of his seniority and would have to grieve it later on. If he refuses, he could be fired for gross insubordination. The driver [B]can[/B] refuse to drive a package car that he believes to be unsafe in good faith, ie. bald tires, broken headlights, etc. or [B]can [/B]refuse to sheet a package in a way that would be a dishonest (unethical) act. I'll leave "immoral" up to your imagination. Having a :censored:ty steward isn't a violation of the contract, but said steward's actions are likely a violation of his ethical responsibilities as a union representative. Keep in mind that not getting your way or getting dinged with a file write up doesn't necessarily mean a steward is in bed with the company. Regardless, you need to be having that conversation with your business agent, not the company. Depends on your local supplement, but in my area junior employees must be "sold out" to other areas ahead of senior workers provided that the employees are "qualified" to perform the work. You'll have to "fight for your right" via the grievance procedure not by being insubordinate. [/QUOTE]
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