Proud to vote NO

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by TheVoice, Oct 31, 2007.

  1. TheVoice

    TheVoice United Prole. Socialist

    Brothers & Sisters:

    As it is, lets take a moment to reflect on the one most important commonality between all of us: That at the end of the day, we are all still union brothers and sisters. I take no great joy in my disagreements with those of you that vote Yes. I do not harbor seeds of discontent or hold my views as those that are absolute in theory. Nor do I intentionally mean to convey a sense of moral, ethical or intellectual supremacy, in my stated opinions of the contract, from those that hold opposing viewpoints.

    I merely have come to a different conclusion than you. A conclusion that I don’t dare to imply is the correct one, any more than I mean to imply that yours is the wrong one. My soul interest, as a means to an end, is the betterment of our lives, as union brothers and sisters, and as union families. It is not out of greed or spite, and it most certainly is not without taking into consideration the collective good for all affected. This is no lighthearted roll of the dice for which the potential of all results are overlooked. I am of an age where I am neither young nor old. To old to be optimistic, to young to be pessimistic, which leaves one at quite a quagmire; but a position from which I like to think I can see the effects on the collective all.

    All of that aside, I remain resolute in my opinion that the contract is flawed. In this view, my concern is not only for the present, but also for the future. I see that, aside from those concessions, which have found fault by many, its what is said that is more troubling than what is unsaid.

    The most we can hope for, regardless of where we stand, is for an informed vote. A vote that has been decided on through a thorough process, the exhausting of all avenues to make an informed decision. It is agreed, no one person should simply vote no or yes because someone has told them to do so, without themselves having done the research to support their opinion.

    So if you haven’t done it already: Read your current contract, read the tentative contract, talk to your co-workers (young and old, part-time and full-time, in-house and drivers, retirees), understand the political climate, understand the economics in that climate, review the past methods of approach, entertain the viewpoints of the opposing side (if for no other reason than to make your viewpoint more stronger), know all potential information obtainable…then cast a vote you can live with.

    I did, I voted NO.

    Respectfully & fraternally,

    The Voice
     
  2. derf3733

    derf3733 Member

    Very well put. I am sure your words echo the thoughts of many of your fellow Brothers and Sisters.
     
  3. huskervi

    huskervi Member

    I second that
     
  4. trickpony1

    trickpony1 Well-Known Member

    In all my years and I forget how many contracts, this is the first one that has, essentially, been crammed down our throats but the union AND the company.
    There is a reason that both parties are cramminmg this down our throats.
    I'm voting "no" and I am not promoting any agenda other than common sense.
     
  5. doolittle95

    doolittle95 Member

    I've read the proposal, discussed the proposal ad nasuem and I understand the proposal. My three NO votes are in the mail.
     
  6. BrownShark

    BrownShark Banned

    We have created a coalition of VOTE no from our 900 man hub and we are standing at the gate every morning reading the contract, answering questions and getting our membership involved for an intelligent vote.

    The overall concensus is a NO VOTE.

    Peace.
     
  7. Mystakilla

    Mystakilla New Member

    For the past three days, upon punching in, all i heard was "Did you get your ballot?"

    My reply ofcourse is, i sure did! let me show you, a picture of it is on my cell phone!! :biggrin:
     
  8. #1angelfan

    #1angelfan New Member

    maybe you should run our union!!!:thumbup1:
     
  9. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    lol, lay off the kool aid. Speak english. Hum de da , hum de day from the voice.

    Do you speak the same way at the grocery store?

    Mr. Voice - Sister I would like to acquire a loaf of your finest non-refined wheat bread. I am resolute in my desire this loaf be free of flaws and blemishes. I will select this loaf with great trepidation skillfully selecting only that loaf that may afford me the greatest oral satisfaction while nutritionally enriching my biological system. A skillfull selection of oral value will not only enrich my system but provide me with a regular , committed movement of the bowels. Thank you my brothers and sisters from the voice.

    I'm sorry Mr. Voice but I have come to the long drawn conclusion that someone who speaks with your style of rhetoric is only sincere in hearing (or reading) theirselves speak.


     
  10. Braveheart

    Braveheart New Member

    I agree! We have nothing if we do not have strong contract language!!!!

    I voted NO too!
     
  11. Braveheart

    Braveheart New Member

    Tie guy if you were on our side I would listen, but alas you are a corporate man and sold your right to an opinion when you went into management!

    I watch your kind in meetings and after. I ask your types for their honest personal opinions and the answer is always "I am not allowed or permitted to say".

    Sad state it must be when your muzzled!
     
  12. tieguy

    tieguy Banned

    Braveheart I don't blame you . Its generally easier to discount those in management then it is to open your mind to all opinions. I'm just trying to figure out who it is you do listen to since you badmouth both the company and your union?
     
  13. TheVoice

    TheVoice United Prole. Socialist


    Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you.

    Furthermore, someone who fly’s the quote under his banner that says, We all communicate better when we leave our ego's at home. Or then comments to me with a negative rep by stating, kill the rhetoric. speak from the heart. It is almost to comical to justify you with a reply…but in the end, I am only human, I couldn’t let it go. As far as speaking from the heart, that is exactly what I have done, the problem is, you have to have one to know that. Lastly, I was talking to my brothers and sisters, not you, so don’t worry about it. (and yes, that is exactly the way I purchase my bread).

    Respectfully,

    The Voice