Pulled off bid route

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Faceplanted, Jan 27, 2016.

  1. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    So let's say driver A has a bid route. He is pulled off his bid route to cover a route he knows. Driver B has less seniority than driver A and covers his route. Driver A is done after 8.5 hours, driver B works 11. Can driver A file for the over time driver B acquired whole covering his route?
     
  2. rod

    rod retired and happy

    Driver A should have stayed on his bid route------Why didn't Driver A soak them for 11 and a half hours for screwing with him?
     
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  3. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    They pull the "what's best for the company" line in driver a's center. Seniority greviences go no where in driver a's hub as its not a payable grevience.
     
  4. rod

    rod retired and happy


    I can understand that but he still should have "taught them a lesson" if he was PO'ed.
     
  5. Orion inc.

    Orion inc. I like turtles

    I'm pretty sure in your supplement, they can't "force" you to come out of your bid route.

    I'd file it and see where it goes but call your BA before and ask.
     
  6. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a slam dunk grievance to me. If driver A was forced off his route.
     
  7. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    They can only force in cases of emergency. And only a few times a year.

    Either way driver needs to learn to play the game better.
     
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  8. We get penalty pay here, if they force you off.
     
  9. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    I saw the driver let management know what was up in a very loud and angry way this morning. The point is across, but a simple seniority grevience teaches them absolutely nothing. I knew in this situation a cover driver does your route and works more than you you can file for money. I wasn't sure if the same applies for a full time driver with less seniority. Thanks for the replays guys I will let him know.

    Being a badass and doing your route, is not as good as doing an easier route, and getting hours of penalty pay. This is how the game is won, not by screaming and yelling. This is chess... Not checkers
     
  10. Big Arrow Down...D

    Big Arrow Down...D Leave the gun,take the cannoli

    This has sick load written all over it...
     
  11. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    The game is usually won by simply running way over when bumped off your route. Pretty simple really.
     
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  12. retiredTxfeeder

    retiredTxfeeder cap'n crunch

    What he said. I ran the same route for 9 years. Never once did I ask to run something else. Came to work one morning and was told I was pulled off my route and had to run another one. I asked to go home and was denied. I started calling for help at 9am and called every hour on the hour. It only happened 1 time. Problem solved.
     
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  13. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    I agree with u guys but this said driver didn't like to throw out the anchor or load up the shoes with lead
     
  14. Clock Sucker

    Clock Sucker I handle a lot of packages

    Is your route a training route?
     
  15. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Yes. And that's what I would do.
     
  16. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    What if the cover driver brings it in early? Would Driver A owe the company money?
     
  17. Overpaid Union Thug

    Overpaid Union Thug Well-Known Member

    Only if the union recognizes production standards..... which everyone knows they don't.
     
  18. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    I've been around a long time and yet you still find ways to look at things that I'm pretty sure not many others do! How does this answer the op post? If there's a case to be made you better believe I'm making it for the member.
     
  19. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    All of you were assuming the cover driver would struggle on the route, thus entitling the bid driver who was moved to the OT that was paid.

    What if the cover driver came in early?
     
  20. Faceplanted

    Faceplanted Well-Known Member

    This said cover driver doesn't know my route so I can't vouch for him personally, but driver A said the cover guy takes an extra 1.5hr to do his route. The fact the cover guy sucks is probably why they would rather not put him blind on the route driver A knows.

    I know, and my buddy driver A knows the only way ups learns is to pay. I'm trying to take driver A under my wing as he's a newer guy who works hard and gets it done. A few senior guys did the same to me when I was starting