Question about Military Leave ?

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by upsmike69, Jul 26, 2011.

  1. UpsguyDGAF

    UpsguyDGAF Member

    Anyone here know how to go about it with Ups? Ive read USERRA but its not ups specific. Thanks....
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Are you talking about the two weeks for training (Guard/Reserve) or are you talking about deploying with your unit?
     
  3. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Either way, you just need to show them a copy of your orders. Talk to someone in admin at your unit, they should be able to walk you right through it.
     
  4. UpsguyDGAF

    UpsguyDGAF Member

    im talking of joining active duty 5 year contract. Same thing?
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    No, not at all. You would have to resign in order to do that. They will not hold your job for 5 years for voluntarily joining the military. They will hold it if you are already enlisted and your unit deploys.
     
  6. UpsguyDGAF

    UpsguyDGAF Member

    It says nothing about reserves only, Im a former Marine
     
  7. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    I am pretty sure that job protection laws only cover Reservists. The job protection rules are pretty liberal for that. You get time off for drill and if deployed, the company has to guarantee your job until 1 year after the deployment ends (pretty sure it is a year, it may even be longer.)

    Your best bet would be to talk to HR or your shop steward or your CO (your CO more than likely knows which laws cover your particular situation.)

    Thank you for your service.
     
  8. MFR2010

    MFR2010 New Member

    You can leave for up to five years, unless your mos requires a longer enlistment. I don't get why people answer if they don't know the correct one.
     
  9. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    wow... I am really hearing this? USERRA protects your job for reserve and "volunteer" active duty enlistments. There are some technicalities about a 4 year vs 5 year enlistment, but it sounds like you are in the clear on this one. From my experience UPS goes above and beyond what USERRA requires. I worked briefly with a part-timer who had just got reinstated at UPS from a 4 year enistment, he worked with us for about 6 months and decided to do another 4 years in the army. UPS granted him another military leave. They were only required by law to give him the first leave, but surprisingly approved him for an additional 4 year term.
     
  10. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Yes, you can join the military and no, you don't have to resign to so. In addition there are exceptions to the cumulative "5 years away" rule that will cover you for a lot of situations.
     
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    So you can enlist in the military, go active and they will hold your job for you? I didn't realize that and apologize for my incorrect posts on this subject.
     
  12. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Unless I'm completely misreading USERRA (always a possibility, but I don't think I am). Even so, I would always advise someone to confirm it with a military lawyer, don't just take the word of some guy on the internet.