Discussion in 'Introductions and Welcomes' started by seb421, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. seb421

    seb421 New Member

    hello i work in a small 'hub' in Leyland England,

    i work the twilight shift which isnt great at the best of times as nights never are.

    its Freezeing cold in the wherehouse and getting colder we have no heating and no uniforms, not evan a ups t-shirt or anything

    some of the lads still don there old lynxx uniform from years ago!

    as im working in sub zero tempreatures with no heating, should ups be supplieing us with some form of uniform, other than a pair of steel toe caps.

    surley this is law and policy is it coverd in any act that you may know of such as the employment regualtion act etc, just asking before i go digging, im sick of ripping and wearing out my own clothes at work and would like a jacket or fleese to put over my own tops.

    Cheers seb.
  2. seb421

    seb421 New Member

    any ideas?
  3. over9five

    over9five Senior Member Staff Member

    Yes. Dress warmer?
  4. stevetheupsguy

    stevetheupsguy sʇǝʌǝʇɥǝndsƃnʎ

    The part of over9five is being played by Hoaxster today.:happy2:
  5. seb421

    seb421 New Member

    dont be a tool, im guessing you are some one who bums ups.

    my issue is not that of dressing warmer, as i stated in my post im sick of damaging my personal clothes and would like something to put over mine provided by my place of work.

    i ask again, should ups be providing any uniform?
  6. seb421

    seb421 New Member

    okay i found what i was looking for....

    An extract from the HSE;

    What is the maximum/minimum temperature in the workplace? The Workplace (Health, Safety and Welfare) Regulations 1992 lay down particular requirements for most aspects of the working environment

    Regulation 7 of these Regulations deals specifically with the temperature in indoor workplaces and states that:

    During working hours, the temperature in all workplaces inside buildings shall be reasonable. However, the application of the regulation depends on the nature of the workplace i.e. a bakery, a cold store, an office, a warehouse.

    The associated ACOP goes on to explain:

    ‘The temperature in workrooms should provide reasonable comfort without the need for special clothing. Where such a temperature is impractical because of hot or cold processes, all reasonable steps should be taken to achieve a temperature which is as close as possible to comfortable. 'Workroom' means a room where people normally work for more than short periods. The temperature in workrooms should normally be at least 16 degrees Celsius unless much of the work involves severe physical effort in which case the temperature should be at least 13 degrees Celsius.

    These temperatures may not, however, ensure reasonable comfort, depending on other factors such as air movement and relative humidity.’ Where the temperature in a workroom would otherwise be uncomfortably high, for example because of hot processes or the design of the building, all reasonable steps should be taken to achieve a reasonably comfortable temperature

    for example by: insulating hot plants or pipes;providing air-cooling plant;shading windows;siting workstations away from places subject to radiant heat. Where a reasonably comfortable temperature cannot be achieved throughout a workroom, local cooling should be provided. In extremely hot weather fans and increased ventilation may be used instead of local cooling.

    Where, despite the provision of local cooling, workers are exposed to temperatures which do not give reasonable comfort, suitable protective clothing and rest facilities should be provided. Where practical there should be systems of work (for example, task rotation) to ensure that the length of time for which individual workers are exposed to uncomfortable temperatures is limited.
  7. over9five

    over9five Senior Member Staff Member

    I think I've been insulted, I'm just not sure.....!
  8. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    That wasn't the slam.

    This was:

    dont be a tool
  9. tonyexpress

    tonyexpress Whac-A-Troll Patrol Staff Member

    Hi seb421 all the way from England!:surprised:
    Welcome to the BrownCafe! Since you're new and you've already called someone a tool I'll give you some direction so you don't run into any problems in the future...

    BrownCafe terms of service

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  10. Yeah! I have an idea.............You're coming off way too strong on BC.
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  11. seb421

    seb421 New Member

    i didnt mean affence by the use of the word tool, i was looking for advise not some cheep shot of a half arsed wise crack.
    it just apears that there is allways one smart arse that has to jump in feet first with a retarted non-relevent reply on every board and i just had the pleasure right from the off.
  12. seb421

    seb421 New Member

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  13. Better believe it!!

    Gaze into my Avatar!!!
  14. DS

    DS Fenderbender

    Seb,first off welcome to the cafe,great to have you here.Sorry if your experience so far has been far from helpful.In America they have strict rules for drivers as far as the uniform goes,but here in Canada,they do not supply anyone else except the customer counter with warm clothes.I'm in a large hub with + 300 drivers,and even though it gets really cold,the building itself has ample heat.I'd love to send you a nice warm ups coat but they'd probobly fire me if they found out.Get a petition going to get them to turn on the heat.
  15. seb421

    seb421 New Member

    thanks for the reply DS, im a loader unfortunaly and not a driver, as for any kind of heating system we have none unless they class the quiver of heat emmiting from the poor outdoor garden security indoor lighting

    i shall reffer my manager to the Health and Safety at work act, also does any one know if UPS class there hub's as out door's? i find this hard to understand given that they have a roof and sides and ours is fully capable of being a secure facilty,

    if they do class my working enviroment an outdoor enviroment then surley they should be under geater scrutiny for expecing its workforce to endure outdoor elements with out providing its employees with adacuate clothing?
  16. over9five

    over9five Senior Member Staff Member

    Darn, lost another friend!
  17. camtrix

    camtrix New Member

    Hi seb
    whose centre manager at leyland hub now?
  18. seb421

    seb421 New Member

    My shift manager on the twilight shift would be a Mr ************.

    have you worked Leyland, if so did you ever have the radio on?
    Lasted edited by : Nov 22, 2009
  19. camtrix

    camtrix New Member

    Worked out of leyland years ago then moved to the Deeside hub and no they stopped radio`s here as well sorry mate