Racism @ UPS and the Union

[preloadguy]

It won't be long and us white guys will be able to play the race card. I've already started to practice my "boo hoo whoa is me" speech.

I don't know.......Slavery, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement..... It takes a few hundred years of systematic oppression before you are able to 'play' the race card. Keep practicing that speech.

 

[Coca Cola Delivery Man87]

Exactly how does UPS & the Union handle racism and workplace violence? We had feeder driver recently cursing racial slurs, threaten a supervisor, and threaten to kill workers at the center... yet he is back in service less than a week after the incident.There's something terribly wrong with this. Is this tolerable just because my center is in South Carolina?

hours upon hours of heavy lifting(warehouse,driver,etc) and dealing with "less than desirable" customers make most men more aggressive.

 

[oldngray]

I don't know.......Slavery, Reconstruction, Jim Crow, the Civil Rights movement..... It takes a few hundred years of systematic oppression before you are able to 'play' the race card. Keep practicing that speech.

Nobody still alive was alive 100+ years ago so blaming those issues is just an excuse. Equality = equal with no favoritism for any race. Race should not be an issue or even considered or it is either discrimination or reverse discrimination.

 

[TooTechie]

Oh good--another racism thread. This will end well.

 

[preloadguy]

Nobody still alive was alive 100+ years ago so blaming those issues is just an excuse. Equality = equal with no favoritism for any race. Race should not be an issue or even considered or it is either discrimination or reverse discrimination.

Equal? Like Jim Crow, separate but equal? How well did that work out? Which by the ended in the 60's, not a 100+ years ago.

Something as institutionalized as racism doesn't die with the people who practiced it.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

hours upon hours of heavy lifting(warehouse,driver,etc) and dealing with "less than desirable" customers make most men more aggressive.

Could be true, but the OP was referring to a feeder driver. The only thing Feeder drivers lift is between their legs...or is baked by Hostess! lol

 

[oldngray]

Equal? Like Jim Crow, separate but equal? How well did that work out? Which by the ended in the 60's, not a 100+ years ago.

Something as institutionalized as racism doesn't die with the people who practiced it.

Separate and equal still factors in race. I said race should not be looked at in any way whether segregation, desegregation, affirmative action, or any other method of using race. By their very natures any program that uses race as a factor is racist whether it hinders or benefits minorities.

 

[The Other Side]

I have noticed at our hub (Whites Creek , Tn) in Nashville that we now have a Union within our Union . We have a Black Caucus that has a very strong presence around our facility . Strange as it might seem to some , it seems as if a large portion of our black Teamster brothers participate in this new found Union . While we are seeking to strenghten our Union , Local 480 , we are put at odds with each other when having to wonder why would we need a seperate Union just for minoritys . I have personally tried to buy a T-shirt/hoodie as I thought the design was cool , but told I couldnt purchase the shirt , I was told I could purchase Teamster or Local 480 shirts at our Local Union Hall , which left me to feel as if my 20 dollar bill wasnt wanted because it was coming from a white guy . If anybody could please explain to me why we need 2 seperate unions for blacks and whites , while in the end the same business agents represent us both , do me a favor and give me and the rest of us a reason why a black caucus is needed

The Teamster were running out of holes to blow smoke into. There is also a womens caucus, and a hispanic caucus.

Its bigger than you think.

TOS.

 

[Tired]

[quote="rod, post: 1308705, member: 5382"calledwon't be long and us white guys will be able to play the race card. I've already started to practice my "boo hoo whoa is me" speech.[/quote]
So exactly what would you do if you were called all types of racial names and mfs to your face and even had your life
threatened while at work? Please educate
us on what proper procedures/ steps
should be taken. I have yet to get an answer.

 

[bleedinbrown58]

So exactly what would you do if you were called all types of racial names and mfs to your face and even had your life
threatened while at work? Please educate
us on what proper procedures/ steps
should be taken. I have yet to get an answer.

I wouldn't take it up with management, HR and my steward....I would just post about it on the internet.

 

[scooby0048]

This thread goes to the top of my "this will not end well" list...

 

[Jones]

So exactly what would you do if you were called all types of racial names and mfs to your face and even had your life
threatened while at work? Please educate
us on what proper procedures/ steps
should be taken. I have yet to get an answer.

Call the 800 number.

 

[toonertoo]

hours upon hours of heavy lifting(warehouse,driver,etc) and dealing with "less than desirable" customers make most men more aggressive.

Women aint no walk in the park either

 

[Wally]

The Teamster were running out of holes to blow smoke into. There is also a womens caucus, and a hispanic caucus.

Its bigger than you think.

TOS.

Maybe we (as Teamsters) should focus more on labor and less on special interest groups.

 

[rod]

Us old retired guys get no respect either.

 

[jumpman23]

hours upon hours of heavy lifting(warehouse,driver,etc) and dealing with "less than desirable" customers make most men more aggressive.

I feel ya dude. People have no freakin clue about people in our profession and how quickly we love to destroy somebody in under 60 seconds. Time bomb waiting to go off. That's what cracks me up about people who are dumb enough to step to us or cuss us, or what have ya. Im just like really you will get destroyed by one of us lol.

 

[jumpman23]

I saw a center manager and a driver almost comes to blows out in the parking lot I was like wtf dude lol. If it were me I would have told that center manager, dude you don't want to go out there cause you might get put to sleep for the rest of your life lol.

 

[HEFFERNAN]

WHOOPS I thought this thread was about racing !!!!

I have to read the title slower next time

 

[toonertoo]

WHOOPS I thought this thread was about racing !!!!

I have to read the title slower next time

Oh crap, so did I!!!!

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

I feel ya dude. People have no freakin clue about people in our profession and how quickly we love to destroy somebody in under 60 seconds. Time bomb waiting to go off. That's what cracks me up about people who are dumb enough to step to us or cuss us, or what have ya. Im just like really you will get destroyed by one of us lol.

I saw a center manager and a driver almost comes to blows out in the parking lot I was like wtf dude lol. If it were me I would have told that center manager, dude you don't want to go out there cause you might get put to sleep for the rest of your life lol.

You really need to tone it down.