I was talking to a fellow driver today about raises. We got on the topic of wether or not we get a raise on August 1. I looked thru everything i had regarding the new contract and the way i understand it we will not get a raise until January 1st since we wil be getting split raises. Am I right? Anyone care to elaborate?
Raises in August??
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GoBrown???
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however the union can take that 1st raise from us and we wont see anything until January
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hseofpayne
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Where did u get that from, who decides if they can take it and for what purpose. I posted a thread earlier about the Central States reducing there part of our pensions.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Half the raise in August, the remainder in either January or February. Why would the Union get any or all of your raise in pay?
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EAM Banshee
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We get 35 cents in August, and then 35 in January. It is possible to lose the January raise, however, we(the membership) must vote on it. The company can claim a financial hardship and have the union hold a vote. After they get a majority vote and only then would we lose it.
Braveheart
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Half in Aug and half in Feb. What I think the other person was saying was that the union may take all of their additional raise in Aug. I hope that is not true! If we half to wait for our second half so should they!
Cementups
Box Monkey
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New Englander
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Not how I read the new contract.
Half the raise can not be taken away from us, it can be diverted to the pension plan. There is nothing that says we get to vote on that happening.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
Ya actually. I even had the benefit of hearing it directly from the 'horses mouth' so to speak.
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New Englander
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Yeah...I'd bank on that. The raise going to the pension, never gets time and a half added to it.
JustTired
free at last.......
Article 34, Section 4 - Reallocations of Contributions/wages
Thirty-five cents of any GWI (gerneral wage increase) may be reallocated as an increased contribution to a Teamster Pension or Health and Welfare Fund.
I read this to say that it could be taken from the August and January raises (any GWI). And if I can interpret that way, then I'm sure the Legal guys can do the same. Not saying it will happen.....but we could go the first year without any raise. And remaining years without much of a raise, if the "powers that be" find it neccesary.
There is a provision that allows the Teamster plans to move $0.25 from the contributions back to a GWI for those that are in well (or fully) funded plans. I think that this is what dilligaf is alluding to.
Thirty-five cents of any GWI (gerneral wage increase) may be reallocated as an increased contribution to a Teamster Pension or Health and Welfare Fund.
I read this to say that it could be taken from the August and January raises (any GWI). And if I can interpret that way, then I'm sure the Legal guys can do the same. Not saying it will happen.....but we could go the first year without any raise. And remaining years without much of a raise, if the "powers that be" find it neccesary.
There is a provision that allows the Teamster plans to move $0.25 from the contributions back to a GWI for those that are in well (or fully) funded plans. I think that this is what dilligaf is alluding to.
IDoLessWorkThanMost
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This is correct.
Either or both raises can be taken away.
Conversely, this language has been in previous contracts and I personally don't remember us ever not getting raises.
We'll see what happens.
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