Ramifications of UPS Freight picketing UPS Package Facilities?

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by InsideUPS, Jul 17, 2013.

  1. InsideUPS

    InsideUPS Active Member

    I spoke with a UPS Freight driver yesterday about their contract. He informed me that their main issue revolves around UPS subcontracting their work.

    This UPS Freight driver further informed me that they plan on picketing UPS package facilities...... in which case we (UPS Package Employees) would contractually be within our rights to honor their pickets. I would be interested in reading your informed input regarding the legalities and ramifications of such actions....
     
  2. stink219

    stink219 Well-Known Member

    Think! Who would be calling the strike?
    Only the negotiating committee has authority. Is it a wildcat?
     
  3. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    But, the common folk will associate it as UPS is on strike. Smart move by freight
     
  4. Nimnim

    Nimnim The Nim

    Unless my local contacts me and tells me I should be honoring a strike, I don't care.
     
  5. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    ​Hope you have a secure parking lot.
     
  6. Nimnim

    Nimnim The Nim

    If my local doesn't tell me, how would I know? Of course I check this forum, but there's hundreds at my location that don't. If it's an official strike my local should attempt to contact me or send someone to my location to inform people. If they don't then my local either doesn't care, or it's not an official strike, and in such case why should I care?

    If I show up to work one day, and there's a line in the parking lot picketing, that's a different story.
     
  7. morecowbell

    morecowbell New Member

    We do not have to cross any established picket line per the contract. Obviously I would hope the local business agents would coordinate with each other so everyone is prepared. If we all stand together it should force both the union and company into some sort of movement.
     
  8. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    If Freight wants my support then the crabby bastard that drives for them in my area could at least acknowledge my presence when we are at the same stop.
     
  9. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    ​Did you offer the Grey Poupon?
     
  10. Inthegame

    Inthegame Well-Known Member

    You would not be within your contractual rights. Your contract clearly makes allowances for PRIMARY pickets, which are picket lines at the place of employment of the picketers. UPS FRT employees do not work in UPS ground facilities, therefore any line set up by FRT employees at a ground location would not be primary and not covered in the Master Agreement. You would be protected from delivering to any UPS FRT location manned by a primary line.
     
  11. Anonymous 10

    Anonymous 10 Guest

    Really?? Whenever I pass the ups freight guy I stick my tongue between two fingers and flick it at him and he does the same. You should try this it will build up your relationship.
     
  12. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Great question, OP!

    Ima thinking if Freight has a line outside my building, my tractor will not be crossing it.
     
  13. BSWALKS

    BSWALKS Easily Amused

    thats a greeting I never heard of. Maybe I'll try it when I get my coffee from DD in the morning.
     
  14. grgrcr88

    grgrcr88 No It's not green grocer!

    You are right on the money. Any picketing at a UPS facility by UPS freight employees would be considered informational and is therefore not protected by our contract to be honored. You would not have to cross the line at a freight facility if a strike was going on there.
     
  15. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    No way will I Iet the freight guys hold my paycheck hostage by picketing my hub. it is my personal perspective that UPS freight is a seperate company/entity that just happens to share the same logo as us. I honestly dont think they are being reasonable with their negotiations. The freight industry is really competetive right now, and I dont think UPS Freight is profitable enough on its own to justify what they are asking for in negotiations.
     
  16. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Say that on your way by. I'm sure they'll understand.
     
  17. brown_trousers

    brown_trousers Active Member

    Im fine with them picketing their own facilities... but if they picket my small package facility I will not show them any respect
     
  18. Returntosender

    Returntosender Well-Known Member

    If you think Freight is'nt profitable you need to know. Monsanto seed bins move through UPS Freight. Those GMO seeds are wroth millions of dollars , Monsanto pays UPS a premium to get those seeds to final destination. Once in a while Monsanto packages on the belts within the small package system.
     
  19. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    My God, I can't believe we have TEAMSTERS here who will not honor a picket line set up by our brother's who work at the same company we do. That's just BS to say they're not the same UPS that we are.

    More Me-sters killing the union.
     
  20. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    Yep

    :bsbullf: