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<blockquote data-quote="hypocrisy" data-source="post: 726481" data-attributes="member: 9500"><p>BigBrown, I think you are splitting hairs. Allowing a vehicle to be driven up to 25 miles to a repair facility is only a concession by DOT in lieu of an expensive tow, not a free pass on operating unsafe equipment.</p><p></p><p>The 20% brake rule only comes into play in a combination vehicle with mulitple axles i.e. a set of doubles with dolly brakes inop would be written up. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p><strong>But what you are missing is that CSA2010 will put every inspection into a database tied to your drivers license showing what deficiencies were noted in the inspection. This score will stay with you for 3 years and be available for your current and any future employers. If your 'score' gets too high, you could find yourself unemployable by any carrier. </strong></p><p> </p><p>I don't know why anyone would gamble with the public's safety by letting things slip by, much less your career. </p><p></p><p>I would re-read this paragraph again too:</p><p> </p><p><strong>Comparison of Appendix G, and the new North American Uniform Driver-Vehicle Inspection Procedure (North American Commercial Vehicle Critical Safety Inspection Items and Out-Of-Service Criteria)</strong></p><p>The vehicle portion of the FMCSA’s North American Uniform Driver-Vehicle Inspection Procedure (NAUD-VIP) requirements, CVSA’s North American Commercial Vehicle Critical Safety Inspection Items and Out-Of-Service Criteria and Appendix G of subchapter B are similar documents and follow the same inspection procedures. The same items are required to be inspected by each document. FMCSA’s and CVSA’s out-of-service criteria are intended to be used in random roadside inspections to identify critical vehicle inspection items and provide criteria for placing a vehicle(s) out-of-service. A vehicle(s) is placed out-of-service only when by reason of its mechanical condition or loading it is determined to be so imminently hazardous as to likely cause an accident or breakdown, or when such condition(s) would likely contribute to loss of control of the vehicle(s) by the driver. A certain amount of flexibility is given to the inspecting official whether to place the vehicle out-of-service at the inspection site or if it would be less hazardous to allow the vehicle to proceed to a repair facility for repair. The distance to the repair facility must not exceed 25 miles. The roadside type of inspection, however, does not necessarily mean that a vehicle has to be defect-free in order to continue in service.</p><p>In contrast, the Appendix G inspection procedure requires that all items required to be inspected are in proper adjustment, are not defective and function properly prior to the vehicle being placed in service.</p><p>-----</p><p> </p><p>I think you can expect roadside inspections to become quite uniform across the country with the full implementation of CSA2010. </p><p> </p><p>Going out on road with any of these deficiencies will net you a write up upon inspection and be entered in the database. You were trained to inspect for deficiencies in these items and have them repaired prior to going on road. I think if Appendix G absolved you of any liablity in operating a UPS vehicle without operating brakes, lights, wipers etc as you suggest, UPS would not have had to pay such huge settlements in these recent OSHA cases. Or are we smarter than lawyers?</p><p> </p><p>I stand by my original post.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hypocrisy, post: 726481, member: 9500"] BigBrown, I think you are splitting hairs. Allowing a vehicle to be driven up to 25 miles to a repair facility is only a concession by DOT in lieu of an expensive tow, not a free pass on operating unsafe equipment. The 20% brake rule only comes into play in a combination vehicle with mulitple axles i.e. a set of doubles with dolly brakes inop would be written up. [B]But what you are missing is that CSA2010 will put every inspection into a database tied to your drivers license showing what deficiencies were noted in the inspection. This score will stay with you for 3 years and be available for your current and any future employers. If your 'score' gets too high, you could find yourself unemployable by any carrier. [/B] I don't know why anyone would gamble with the public's safety by letting things slip by, much less your career. I would re-read this paragraph again too: [B]Comparison of Appendix G, and the new North American Uniform Driver-Vehicle Inspection Procedure (North American Commercial Vehicle Critical Safety Inspection Items and Out-Of-Service Criteria)[/B] The vehicle portion of the FMCSA’s North American Uniform Driver-Vehicle Inspection Procedure (NAUD-VIP) requirements, CVSA’s North American Commercial Vehicle Critical Safety Inspection Items and Out-Of-Service Criteria and Appendix G of subchapter B are similar documents and follow the same inspection procedures. The same items are required to be inspected by each document. FMCSA’s and CVSA’s out-of-service criteria are intended to be used in random roadside inspections to identify critical vehicle inspection items and provide criteria for placing a vehicle(s) out-of-service. A vehicle(s) is placed out-of-service only when by reason of its mechanical condition or loading it is determined to be so imminently hazardous as to likely cause an accident or breakdown, or when such condition(s) would likely contribute to loss of control of the vehicle(s) by the driver. A certain amount of flexibility is given to the inspecting official whether to place the vehicle out-of-service at the inspection site or if it would be less hazardous to allow the vehicle to proceed to a repair facility for repair. The distance to the repair facility must not exceed 25 miles. The roadside type of inspection, however, does not necessarily mean that a vehicle has to be defect-free in order to continue in service. In contrast, the Appendix G inspection procedure requires that all items required to be inspected are in proper adjustment, are not defective and function properly prior to the vehicle being placed in service. ----- I think you can expect roadside inspections to become quite uniform across the country with the full implementation of CSA2010. Going out on road with any of these deficiencies will net you a write up upon inspection and be entered in the database. You were trained to inspect for deficiencies in these items and have them repaired prior to going on road. I think if Appendix G absolved you of any liablity in operating a UPS vehicle without operating brakes, lights, wipers etc as you suggest, UPS would not have had to pay such huge settlements in these recent OSHA cases. Or are we smarter than lawyers? I stand by my original post. [/QUOTE]
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