MassWineGuy
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I worked last peak as a seasonal driver. This meant paying union dues and an initiation fee despite not being covered at all by the union contract.
Can I get any of this refunded?
Can I get any of this refunded?
Refund of Union Initiation Fee
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Not now dude. It's a year later.
MassWineGuy
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Oh well, at least it wasn't the full amount of the fee. I was definitely not protected by the contract.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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The whiner does have a valid point. IMO seasonal help should not be required to pay union dues, let alone an initiation fee, and those that do and are not kept on after Peak should be entitled to a refund of any dues or initiation fees paid.
Why anyone would wait nearly a year before asking this question is beyond me.
Why anyone would wait nearly a year before asking this question is beyond me.
Indecisi0n
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Paypal me cash for $150.00 and I will get this straightened out for you.
MassWineGuy
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Whining? About the point you, yourself, admitted was valid, UPstate? I guess maybe I do whine sometimes. But not now.
Why a year? Honestly, yes, I should have looked into this sooner. But also, I wasn't sure if I was going to work for UPS again or not. If so, I would have started paying the fees again.
Why a year? Honestly, yes, I should have looked into this sooner. But also, I wasn't sure if I was going to work for UPS again or not. If so, I would have started paying the fees again.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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There is nothing worse than a disgruntled former employer who knows in his heart he did not put forth his best effort.
Bubblehead
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I disagreed with this post (again, as we rehash this annually) because these employees are working in a union shop, making a union negotiated wage, alongside other union employees.
With this in mind, they should pay monthly dues while they are working.
Where I agree, is in regards to the initiation fee.
To me, the term initiation fee implies new membership and these employees have no chance of achieving this.
In my local, they almost have it right where they take an initiation fee from any new employee, but will refund them their money if they don't work 30 days.
This tends to be a well guarded secret by both the local and the company, as the local wants the money and company doesn't want their temporary worker quitting on the 29th day.
I tell anybody who will listen, but inevitably hear tales of sour grapes annually when it's too late.
If it were to be completely fair, the local would refund anybody who doesn't achieve seniority their initiation fee as they really never joined the union.
bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
You and I agree on very little...but you're right...this time.
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Absolutely.
Let me offer my perspective.
If the company disqualifies the person (before they attain seniority);
And asks the Local for a refund, so be it.
If the employee decides not pursue (further) employment and gives 2 weeks notice;
And asks the Local for a refund, so be it.
All others, sorry about your luck.
Don't come back a year later.... and post here.... fishing for answers.
-Bug-
ChickenLegs
Safety Expert
Do you have your receipt?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Do you think seasonal employees should pay dues and/or initiation fees ?
I do.
ChickenLegs
Safety Expert
No. It's theft. They pay and get nothing
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
Bubblehead
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I agree as long as there is full disclosure.
These seasonal employees should be presented with the rules and options before it is too late.
You say "all others, sorry about your luck"?
Luck should have nothing to do with it.
Why is it we are only concerned with public perception in regards to strikes?
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bleedinbrown58
That’s Craptacular
It's been a year....get over it.
