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<blockquote data-quote="abbear" data-source="post: 51468"><p>Please excuse for for coming to the party late and also if I cover something that has already been discussed. I scanned the whole discussion and have some experience as a steward with this so here's my two cents. </p><p> </p><p>Under labor law unless your contract specifically states that you don't have to sign something that when mgmt places a form in front of you you should sign it and write 'under protest' if you feel it necessary. To do otherwise has been ruled insubordination and can cause you a lot a trouble. Remember the rule of thumb - unless it is expressly illegal follow the instruction and file a grievance. </p><p> </p><p>There are some important exceptions to the above. Safety is always first. But when we had management try and have us sign a form indicating their take on our min/max stop count and acceptable stops per hour I immediately called the union business agent, advised him that the company was trying to negotiate conditions of work with individuals as opposed to the union, and was told as steward to advise all employees not to sign these forms on counsel of the BA, he immediately called the center manager and threatened him with grievances, and the center manager tucked his tail between his legs and backed way off. </p><p> </p><p>This is pretty well covered under article 6, section 1 of the national master agreement and is what I used when speaking with both the BA and management. Recognize that your local supplement may have wording that supplements this. </p><p> </p><p>Bottom line - if it is discipline or training or DR certification and such - sign it and grieve later. If they are trying to negotiate work rules - refer them to your local's Business Agent. </p><p> </p><p>Hope this helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="abbear, post: 51468"] Please excuse for for coming to the party late and also if I cover something that has already been discussed. I scanned the whole discussion and have some experience as a steward with this so here's my two cents. Under labor law unless your contract specifically states that you don't have to sign something that when mgmt places a form in front of you you should sign it and write 'under protest' if you feel it necessary. To do otherwise has been ruled insubordination and can cause you a lot a trouble. Remember the rule of thumb - unless it is expressly illegal follow the instruction and file a grievance. There are some important exceptions to the above. Safety is always first. But when we had management try and have us sign a form indicating their take on our min/max stop count and acceptable stops per hour I immediately called the union business agent, advised him that the company was trying to negotiate conditions of work with individuals as opposed to the union, and was told as steward to advise all employees not to sign these forms on counsel of the BA, he immediately called the center manager and threatened him with grievances, and the center manager tucked his tail between his legs and backed way off. This is pretty well covered under article 6, section 1 of the national master agreement and is what I used when speaking with both the BA and management. Recognize that your local supplement may have wording that supplements this. Bottom line - if it is discipline or training or DR certification and such - sign it and grieve later. If they are trying to negotiate work rules - refer them to your local's Business Agent. Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
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