So I thought to come by here just to see what all my fellow former UPSers are talkng about. When I was with UPS I held a few positions got promoted a bunch now I look back with disgust. Im a hard worker have been since im a little kid. I am intelligent, fair, goal orientated, will break my back to help others and do whats right. I am sorry to say that UPS was a great disappointment. Without going into details I would like anyone who is considering a management job at UPS to really think about what they want in life. If all you care about is money and are willing to give your life and enjoyment for a few extra dollars then by all means make yourself rich and miserable. If you are a driver and you are thinking or being wooed into a fancy management position. This is all I will tell you and then you can make your own bed and sleep in it. I loved my job my drivers were great. They worked hard for me and I worked hard for them. My numbers and performance were stellar at the least. My drivers were happy and I was miserable. The sad part is that I loved my job and I enjoyed what I did every day and I was good at it. But the lifestyle is miserable and the picture they paint is not as pretty once it right there infront of you. Also the management people who post message on here are absolutly hysterical I love reading all the crap they spew out. Dont believe the cliches about hard work and challange and opportunity. Yes its all there, but when its all said and done its not worth the hell they will put you through. UPS will really suck the life out of you if you actually care about anything. I know management in any business is about making money and keeping things running right. But that is not good enough for UPS. I took a center that was in shambles and made it good with the help of my DRIVERS! Unfortunately most but not all management could really care less about you or your life. What they do care about is your over-allowed hours and that about it. Now not to say that drivers shouldnt perform well but "alot" of reasons why "good" drivers perform poorly is cause management does not hold up their end of the bargain. I fixed and spent hours tracing routs and fixing all my drivers complaints (within reason) Obviously the needs of the business are important but management at UPS only worried about the bottom line and 99% could care less who they have to screw and step on in order to get there. Profit is important but treating people with respect and dignity is also important. Also management will let you belive that once you are "in" you are a "partner." Be careful if you do choose to take a management position your new partners are not your friends. Bottom Line: FT Union positions are the only jobs that are worth while in my opinion and that is under the assumption that you want to enjoy you life and not be a slave to the company. Management is great if you plan on being unhappy for 30 years and never seeing your wife or kids. Unless you need to make alot of money and be a big shot stay where you are and enjoy every day. Drivers have great benefits and can retire very happy with alot of money.