Republicans and Democrats: No both parties are not the same

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by brett636, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    Democrats and Republicans: No, Both Parties Are Not the Same
     
  2. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Am I to believe then that conservatives are all things for all people? Perhaps the only "true" Americans? Nice to see that the right is finally coming out and saying exactly what they want: conservative, one party rule. On a side note, I did notice that on immigration the author was thunderously silent on Reagan's amnesty, not that I was surprised.
     
  3. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    Conservatism is rooted in the individual and empowering said individual to succeed by eliminating unnecessary government constraints. When the individual succeeds, the civil society succeeds. Liberalism on the other hand focuses on controlling the individual for the supposed greater good of the people. This rarely works out and usually ends in tyranny.

    C.S. Lewis stated it best when quoted "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
     
  4. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    You subscribe to a "nanny state" skewed view of the democratic party. Some go too far but not most. Clinton, Rendel, Obama, Harold Ford Jr., Steven Rattner, all are democrats and none are promoters of such a policy. You have used a fine author to put forth a false choice.
     
  5. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    Yeah,Clinton (Bill) said to extend the tax cuts til next year.......I think he was right and the administration was ready to have him shot!!!
     
  6. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    That's my point. Brett wants to say all dems are the same, all repubs are the same, conservatives are wonerful and liberals are socialists. As Carlin said, "Nice trick, if you can pull it off."
     
  7. moreluck

    moreluck golden ticket member

    I can read Bubba's motives.......he's laying the ground for Hillary to run in 2016. He 'pretends' to be for Obama, but then he say's stuff like, "remember me? I was the one who balanced 4 out of the 8 budgets?" Slick Willy still applies!
     
  8. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Oh, he's slick alright. But don't think for one moment he wants anything but an Obama win right now. If he's going to be campaigning for Obama now, the last thing he needs going into '16 is looking like a loser.
     
  9. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    Thats not what I said at all.
     
  10. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    It is and you know it.
     
  11. TearsInRain

    TearsInRain part-time bossman

    his article went to :censored2::censored2::censored2::censored2: when he started talking about sin and saints
     
  12. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    That did shine some light on his view.
     
  13. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    No, its just you trying to change the subject when the current one is going out of your league.
     
  14. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    Enlighten me.
     
  15. island1fox

    island1fox Well-Known Member

    bbsam,

    Is it just a case of non comprehension ?
     
  16. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    No. I like to watch brett plod straight ahead through his foolish idealism. It amuses me.
     
  17. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    Read the article and become enlightened.
     
  18. brett636

    brett636 Well-Known Member

    It amuses me when I'm able to pry the sad truth from you that you are so shallow that you will support a man for President simply because he has a D next to his name and shares nearly the same level of melatonin in his skin as you. Tell me, when it is pinpointed that the fall of this great country began with the election of Barack Obama what you are going to tell your kids when they ask you why you allowed them to live in a world where getting by is a struggle? Are you going to say that you had to vote for Barack Obama because he is black? Are you going to say you had to vote for him because he is a democrat? There is simply no other logical reasoning to vote for him other than skin color for yourself and people who think like you, but I'm curious how you are going to make it up to your kids for voting in a man who will make their futures unfathomably difficult.
     
  19. wkmac

    wkmac Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised no one has offered an argument of the original article linked as to it's actual source. I'll just dangle that carrot there and move on.
     
  20. bbsam

    bbsam Moderator Staff Member

    We've been running deficits since 2000 or before, but the downfall is about Obama?