trickpony1
Well-Known Member
I am truly surprised that after 21 posts on this subject we haven't heard from our most frequent and staunch supporter of management.....Mr. Tieguy.
.....cat got your tongue?
.....cat got your tongue?
Sour grapes. Unhappy people will be unhappy where ever they are, hourly or management.I know several drivers who have gone in management and most all of them have quit. I never fell for that one since I like where I live, and most are sent somewhere they hate. Many get divorced and age in dog years. They try to tell you how happy they are but you can see right through them. When you see them after they have left , some say I should have stayed a driver. It is really sad.
What kind of abacas are you doing your math on?That's one problem - "best" managers aren't your friends. Best "friends" aren't managers. When that gets to be the case the management herd needs to be culled.
You're the hired help and nothing more - and you're paid a premium for it. Live with it.
The initial poster seems to be a loon.
He claims 6 years hourly and 11 in management. That math doesn't work anywhere. Six years to figure out your career path? While only occupying space and burning time? BS.
Not anymore. Not here. You better figure out a Teamster life is repulsive and unsatisfying within a year - preferably within four months.
Testing now is specifically designed to disqualify you BEFORE you get in the program. That's to cut down on your "best managers" scenario.
The general consensus in certain parts of the country is that UPS is going to lose approximately 60% of its management structure in the next eight years due to retirement alone.
My personal understanding is that they intend to take 15 - 18% of vehicles off the road during that time period. Do the math.
Management will decrease through attrition. Do you have a "Jobs Program?"
I didn't think so. Teamster "drivers" are going to go the way of carhaul and freight in the small package division within the decade. Watch and see.
I'd like to give a howdy hello to a voice that represents the majority of management at UPS. As if you would actually say this to anyones face in real life, I don't think so. If we are hired help, what exactly are you? What makes you more of an asset to UPS than a driver who, ya know, does basically everything for the customers. The last thing this company will get rid of is its drivers. We will be here long after you get pink-slipped by the real movers and shakers at UPS, you're just a pretender.
P.S. -- The entire segment about management fading and UPS then taking 15% of vehicles off the road....thanks for the laugh, guy.
Many get divorced and age in dog years.
Good luck, I hope you have a back-up plan.I just resigned after almost 17 years of service, with the last 11 in management. My only regret is that I didn’t leave any sooner. I haven’t felt this good in a very, very long time. I’ll finally be able to be a father to my children and spend time doing some things that I would like to do before I’m too old and run down. UPS management doesn’t believe in family no matter what they say. The pay is extremely overrated and there are far more companies that treat they people better from both a working environment and compensation perspective.
We’ve had 7 full-time management employees leave since January. That is almost unheard of. You could literally go years without any management employee quitting years ago. Now it has become common place. It doesn’t look good for the company and it doesn’t seem like they are trying to doing anything about it either. It’s happening in every district throughout the country right now. They better act quickly before it’s too late
Drivers, don’t ever believe that supervisors make more than you. If you are considering going into management, think again!!!!! There were many days that I wished I would have stayed a union employee. Good luck to all of you and I hope you all have a safe and happy holiday!
That's probably because he already has a couple of mil in the bank so why would he need another mil.They do seem to age fast, don't they?
I ran into an ex-manager who said that UPS could offer him a million dollars to come back for 12 months and he would turn them down.
That's one problem - "best" managers aren't your friends. Best "friends" aren't managers. When that gets to be the case the management herd needs to be culled.
You're the hired help and nothing more - and you're paid a premium for it. Live with it.
The initial poster seems to be a loon.
He claims 6 years hourly and 11 in management. That math doesn't work anywhere. Six years to figure out your career path? While only occupying space and burning time? BS.
Not anymore. Not here. You better figure out a Teamster life is repulsive and unsatisfying within a year - preferably within four months.
Testing now is specifically designed to disqualify you BEFORE you get in the program. That's to cut down on your "best managers" scenario.
The general consensus in certain parts of the country is that UPS is going to lose approximately 60% of its management structure in the next eight years due to retirement alone.
My personal understanding is that they intend to take 15 - 18% of vehicles off the road during that time period. Do the math.
Management will decrease through attrition. Do you have a "Jobs Program?"
I didn't think so. Teamster "drivers" are going to go the way of carhaul and freight in the small package division within the decade. Watch and see.
People leave UPS, FEDEX, the local factory,and professions everyday. Most leave because they feel that they can find happiness and job satisfaction somewhere else. We all are responsinle for or own happiness; and if you allow a job to define you and expect it to make you happy-then you'll never be happy. Think about what you would do ifmoney didn't matter and go do it. It's not about attacking UPS or the people that work there; the people are no different than anyone else and the company is in the business of business...so what did you expect ?I'd like to give a howdy hello to a voice that represents the majority of management at UPS. As if you would actually say this to anyones face in real life, I don't think so. If we are hired help, what exactly are you? What makes you more of an asset to UPS than a driver who, ya know, does basically everything for the customers. The last thing this company will get rid of is its drivers. We will be here long after you get pink-slipped by the real movers and shakers at UPS, you're just a pretender.
P.S. -- The entire segment about management fading and UPS then taking 15% of vehicles off the road....thanks for the laugh, guy.
804 what's the issue with you folks and the supplements......what's the sticking points ?Grats on your resignation
I am truly surprised that after 21 posts on this subject we haven't heard from our most frequent and staunch supporter of management.....Mr. Tieguy.
.....cat got your tongue?
I am truly surprised that after 21 posts on this subject we haven't heard from our most frequent and staunch supporter of management.....Mr. Tieguy.
he is busy figuring out a way to beat me this week in fantasy football. lol