Retro pay after termination or resignation

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by Up_and_at_UPS, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. Up_and_at_UPS

    Up_and_at_UPS Coffee box sniffer

    Anyone know when UPS pays retro pay if an employee is terminated or resigns? Do they pay out immediately, since they are no longer an employee, or do they wait till the contract is ratified?
     
  2. RonBurgandy??????????

    RonBurgandy?????????? God is Great, beer is good , People are crazy.

  3. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    This is an excellent question. Retroactive pay is paid for any hours worked between the end date of the previous contract and the ratification date of the new contract. For drivers, it will be $.70/hr for all hours worked at straight rate and $1.05/hr for all overtime hours. The NMA is a done deal so you would think that permanent employees no longer with the company would receive their retro upon separation but unfortunately this is not the case. You need to make sure that the address UPS has on file for you is your current one as your check will be mailed to you upon ratification.
     
  4. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    My guess would be no since you did not work under the new contract, but everyone is just guessing here.
     
  5. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Are you saying no that he won't receive retro pay right away or no that he won't get any retro pay at all? If he worked even 1 hour on or after 1 Aug he will receive a check for retro pay.
     
  6. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    I guessing at all since he never worked under the contract that said he would get a raise. Contract has not passed yet, so none of us get the benefits, like pension increases until it does, and we work a day under it.
     
  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The ratification and effective dates of our contracts are normally the same day; however, this year it obviously will not be. The contract will be ratified with an effective date of Aug 1, 2013, and any hours worked on or after that date will be paid at the appropriate rate. You do not need to work a day under the new contract to receive retro pay.

    Pension increases will be handled in the same manner.
     
  8. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Good points from both sides. The bold part is what makes me think that they may not receive retro pay.

    We are currently working under the old contract. You leave UPS now, you left and severed all ties with UPS under the old contract. When the new contract finally goes into affect, it will be retro for all of us who are working. But that doesn't necessarily mean that those who are no longer employed once worked under then new contract.

    Interesting question, I do not think any of us laborers will have a definitive answer, regardless how sure he/she is.
     
  9. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Nobody really knows for sure is all I am saying. We shall see when it does finally passes.
     
  10. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    The National contract HAS passed as a whole even though some local have voted it down also some local riders have not.
     
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Retroactive pay is pay which an employee is owed for work which has already been completed. It is often made up in the form of a lump sum in which the difference between what the employee was paid and what the employee should have been paid is made over in a check. Sometimes an agreement may be reached in which the employer disburses small payments with each paycheck until the difference has been made up. There are a number of reasons why people might be entitled to retroactive pay.

    The most common reason for this situation to occur is ongoing labor negotiations. While negotiations are underway, the employer continues to pay employees at the established rate. When the negotiations are over, they may include a clause that employees are entitled to retroactive pay, starting on a set date, because part of the agreement includes a wage increase. The employer is required to make up the difference as part of the overall enactment of the agreement.
     
  12. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Passed and ratified are not one in the same.
     
  13. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member

    Does it really matter? UPS could very easily not pay. The union is not going to fight for an ex member. The ex-employee could sue, but would hardly be worth the effort. Perhaps a class action suit of some sort, but again it would not be worth it....for the lawyers anyway.

    My bet, UPS will not pay. If they do pay, it will only be when contacted by the ex-employee. Speculation of course.
     
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    UPS has no wiggle room on this in regard to permanent employees, whether they are still working here or have separated. Any permanent employee who has worked on or after 1 Aug 13 will receive retro pay.

    I am not sure if seasonal employees will receive retro pay----I don't think they will as they were hired at a specific pay rate.
     
  15. kingOFchester

    kingOFchester Well-Known Member


    Two things.

    One, I think we all know the definition of retro pay.

    Two, plagiarize much? Word for word your entire post can be found here:

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-retroactive-pay.htm

    (I gave you plenty of time to edit, even waited till you posted more posts, so obviously it wasn't an oversight. Wonder how many more your posts are plagiarized?)


    I guess anyone can Google!!:eek:
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • List
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2014
  16. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    Why wouldn't the seasonal person get it as well, if one gets it the other should as well. They get a percentage of starting driver rate here(believe it is 80%). If starting rate goes up, then helper pay goes up.
     
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    .....this is why I said "I am not sure" as I honestly don't know how seasonals will be treated.... My gut says they were hired at a set rate and will not receive retro pay.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Old Old x 1
    • List
  18. Funfact

    Funfact Well-Known Member

    They are the same. Implemented might be the word your looking for.... Either way the national has passed and or has been ratified by a simple majority of the people that voted on it. It can not be changed only the local riders and or supplements that haven't be passed / ratified can be changed.
     
  19. upschuck

    upschuck Avatar bet gone wrong

    You have got to be consistent with your logic, that is what I am going for. Neither is working when contract goes into effect.
     
  20. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I am 100% sure that each and ever permanent employee who worked a day on or after Aug 1 will receive retro pay.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
    • Optimistic Optimistic x 1
    • List