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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 880305" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Don't want to distract from the COL discussion but just quickly, yes I think in some respects they do. America is wrapped so tight with religious faith that if 2 candidates were running for the same office and one candidate was perfect down the line except he/she was an atheist and the other candidate was so/so but one of faith, the one of faith would win. <a href="http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistbigotryprejudice/a/AtheistSurveys.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">Gallup polling data</span></a> supports this conclusion. Typical responses here to an atheist or agnostic POV would seem to also follow those numbers as well. So on that point, faith does matter.</p><p></p><p>If religious beliefs and thinking were not such a big deal in the first place, why do so many candidates make a point to either openly play to various religious groups or make a point of their personal belief in god? Why go speak to various christian groups for example? Sure, it's a numbers game and thus the point because numbers become voters on election day. If religion and a candidate person position was not a factor, then why does an organization like PEW Research have a section devoted purely to <a href="http://pewforum.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">Religion and Public Life</span></a>? If religion is so much a lesser issue as you suggest, then why did PEW consider <a href="http://pewresearch.org/pubs/758/voting-religiously" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">the religion angle</span></a> in the heat of the 2008' Presidential Primaries? In fact, <a href="http://pewresearch.org/topics/election%2708/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">here</span></a> are all the PEW articles from the 2008' campaign and scroll down and look at how many had a religious angle to them. I'll admit I was even surprised. </p><p></p><p>If you don't think religion at some level is not played too, you might be far underestimating the "power of god" in politics.</p><p></p><p>And as to my amputee question,</p><p></p><p>[video=youtube;5LCl2YlqG3I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCl2YlqG3I&amp;feature=feedlik[/video]</p><p></p><p>But it get's even <a href="http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=6864c9e0-cfcc-4cf6-b373-6d4cbabe6cd3" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">better</span></a>. And man is now <a href="http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/311636" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">creating</span></a> life itself. If lowly man can take compounds and put them in the right environment and from this create life........sure raises a lot of interesting questions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 880305, member: 2189"] Don't want to distract from the COL discussion but just quickly, yes I think in some respects they do. America is wrapped so tight with religious faith that if 2 candidates were running for the same office and one candidate was perfect down the line except he/she was an atheist and the other candidate was so/so but one of faith, the one of faith would win. [URL="http://atheism.about.com/od/atheistbigotryprejudice/a/AtheistSurveys.htm"][COLOR=#ff0000]Gallup polling data[/COLOR][/URL] supports this conclusion. Typical responses here to an atheist or agnostic POV would seem to also follow those numbers as well. So on that point, faith does matter. If religious beliefs and thinking were not such a big deal in the first place, why do so many candidates make a point to either openly play to various religious groups or make a point of their personal belief in god? Why go speak to various christian groups for example? Sure, it's a numbers game and thus the point because numbers become voters on election day. If religion and a candidate person position was not a factor, then why does an organization like PEW Research have a section devoted purely to [URL="http://pewforum.org/"][COLOR=#ff0000]Religion and Public Life[/COLOR][/URL]? If religion is so much a lesser issue as you suggest, then why did PEW consider [URL="http://pewresearch.org/pubs/758/voting-religiously"][COLOR=#ff0000]the religion angle[/COLOR][/URL] in the heat of the 2008' Presidential Primaries? In fact, [URL="http://pewresearch.org/topics/election%2708/"][COLOR=#ff0000]here[/COLOR][/URL] are all the PEW articles from the 2008' campaign and scroll down and look at how many had a religious angle to them. I'll admit I was even surprised. If you don't think religion at some level is not played too, you might be far underestimating the "power of god" in politics. And as to my amputee question, [video=youtube;5LCl2YlqG3I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LCl2YlqG3I&feature=feedlik[/video] But it get's even [URL="http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=6864c9e0-cfcc-4cf6-b373-6d4cbabe6cd3"][COLOR=#ff0000]better[/COLOR][/URL]. And man is now [URL="http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/311636"][COLOR=#ff0000]creating[/COLOR][/URL] life itself. If lowly man can take compounds and put them in the right environment and from this create life........sure raises a lot of interesting questions. [/QUOTE]
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