After reading thousands of posts about people bitching and complaining about how unfair they are treated it makes me wonder why they continue to work for this great company? I am a pt sup. I unloaded for three months and then was promoted. I have taken the ft test and done the panel interview and am now in the pool to be promoted to full time management. I will then become the hub manager, then the division manager, then the district manager and so on and so forth. With each promotion my pay will almost triple and I will retire a millionaire. UPS sounds good to me! Whiners get out of the way.
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Just Lurking
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There was day that this could have happened. Not going happen for you though.
All of us the bitch and complain miss that UPS. The one that we could disagree with each other and still come together at the end of the day. Not the one where everyone is out for themselves and themselves alone.
The good and bad culture of that UPS is gone forever.
All of us the bitch and complain miss that UPS. The one that we could disagree with each other and still come together at the end of the day. Not the one where everyone is out for themselves and themselves alone.
The good and bad culture of that UPS is gone forever.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
This is an entirely different company than when I started 10 years ago.
First of all, the logo change and privately traded to public in that time span should tell you something.
http://www.bnet.com/article/ups-scott-davis-we-needed-to-be-public/397544
Congratulations on aspiring to become a district manager. That is the most crucial job in the company, after the CEO, because although corporate sets the vision, it is the district managers who must develop the plans to run the day to day business and attain all the financial, service and safety goals.
I never had the skill to attain that level with the organization, but I've worked closely with enough district managers and know that to reach their level you need to work entremely hard, be focused on attaining your business plan results, and have the supreme confidence that you will overcome problems and be successful. You obviously have the confidence- just remember that every one of today's district managers started in an entry level position like you, but realized that he/she had to be successful in their current job, if they wanted a chance for bigger job responsiblities in the future. Good luck!
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Believe it or not, you are not the first person to come to UPS and think they are going to reinvent the wheel. Check back with us in a few years and let us know how much of that ambition you have left. Dave.
brownedout
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You can't even begin to call anything in a buidling yours until at the very least you're a Center Mgr. And the few of them around with a clue know that is not even the case anymore. You'll go a long way toward reaching your aspirations if you treat people a little better, otherwise said people will "throw you under the truck"!
brownedout
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...and yet they always come up with the...SQUARE!
Didn't say anything about reinventing anything Dave, just working for a great company and taking advantage of the opportunity that is there.
Actually, I misspoke (misposted?) He was our Division Manager. I'm assuming 2008 is when you started? You're about 20 years too late for the Millionaire Club.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't load anything. I'm a Feeder Driver and UPS is not my only source of income. I have my own business that is doing quite well.
I'm the guy that reports you when my trailers aren't ready on time. You really don't want to annoy Feeder Drivers. Sometimes that hazmat/seal control pouch can get "lost" and you'll be re-handling that trailer and doing a write-up about it.
UnconTROLLed
perfection
Where else do you work? heh
Honestly, the one being taken advantage of (that I see) are the PT supervisors.
Griff
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What opportunity are you taking advantage of? The chance to wield your "power" by telling people to get back to work? I mean your posts are basically laughable to any of us who have been here for years. Do you have any idea how many PT sups have come and gone with your exact attitude? Hell, I've known several drivers who went into management with your exact same corporate ladder plan.
Guess where they all are bud, I know you know the answer.
The overwhelming majority were fired or quit. The rest are currently stuck in a never ending lateral-promotion management job and they tell me how it was the worst decision of their life. You will NEVER get above on-car supervisor without doing disgraceful and evil things in the name of the company shield. If you are willing to lie, cheat, abuse, harass, intimidate and steal from your workers then you have a fabulous future ahead of you at UPS. Judging by your posts I'm pretty certain you have no qualms about doing the things listed in the previous sentence. Pretty sad what some people will do for a paycheck these days, i'd rather be homeless.
Don't be surprised if you end up just like all my seasonal helpers for the last 4-5 years.
Helper: "The managers promised me a P/T job after Christmas, so I'm gonna bust my butt and show them what I'm capable of out here!!"
Me: "Really? That's what the guy said last year and he never got hired."
Helper: "No man, the manager promised me that he'd pull some strings and get me on the preload!"
Me: "I wouldn't trust a manager at UPS if my life depended on it."
Helper: "Really? Why?"
Me: "You'll find out."
3 weeks later -- I see the guy on my route applying for a job at the place I eat lunch at everyday. He told me UPS never called him and wouldn't return his phonecalls after Christmas eve. There is no honor left in this company and you can thank Scott Davis and the good old boys club.
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That is ridiculous! Management experience at UPS looks great on a resume, so if it didn't work out there then I would have a good opportunity to go somewhere else. I have my cdl, I have a friend who works in feeder as a driver trainer, and he makes great money! All I'm saying is that UPS is a great company to work for with unlimited opportunity. To think that the employees could get the job done without proper leadership is crazy. If we didn't need pt sups we wouldn't have them. I would never lie, cheat, or do any of the other things that you mentioned. Do you know how many of my outstanding hourly employees have been fired for stealing this year alone? Three in unload. That is why UPS needs responsible management, the hourlys can't be trusted.
Griff
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If you refuse to lie, cheat or do any of the other things that I mentioned then your unlimited opportunity has just instantly shrunk to limited opportunity. You will never make it beyond on-car supervisor, mark my words. The only ones who make it above that job title in present day UPS are professional number fudgers, thieves and liars. You'll find out just how limited your upside is pretty quickly -- better change your ideals.
3 people in unload fired for stealing? You say that as if it's supposed to send shock waves across the forums. Wanna know how many managers I've seen escorted out of the building (1 of them being a division manager)??????!!???
Griff
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I don't escort anyone out of the building. I'm a lowly FT driver and shop steward. I'm simply the guy who waves and smiles as they pass by me on their way out the door.
The feeder driver trainers are just like the on-road package car sups: most haven't figured out how bad they are getting screwed yet. Feeder driver trainer is the hardest job to get out of: once they know you can do it you will be doing it over and over and over and over and over again. You'll pray for a medical condition to disqualify you from your CDL. (I'm not picking on you, this is what our most senior trainer said to me on a ride after they dragged him back into it. He has more than 5 years to go till retirement.)
I wouldn't be so sure about those open doors. Most companies admire UPS, but they don't run their company like ours. Even Fedex doesn't run their company our way and doesn't really want to (although they are struggling with that). Fedex Ground has spent millions getting rid of the former RPS managers and retraining UPS rejects to keep themselves out of court. I personally know someone there who won't be anything higher than what is our equivalent of a full time inside manager because he can't adjust and lose the UPS mentality. He isn't going to see the high side of $50k for a long time.
The success after UPS stories are becoming the exception. Not a huge market for a "numbers chaser" as was dissected in the latest thread: https://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/riding-with-drivers.338523/
It's a shame really. Our strength has always been in our people, on both sides, and I fear our house is rotting from within.
I wouldn't be so sure about those open doors. Most companies admire UPS, but they don't run their company like ours. Even Fedex doesn't run their company our way and doesn't really want to (although they are struggling with that). Fedex Ground has spent millions getting rid of the former RPS managers and retraining UPS rejects to keep themselves out of court. I personally know someone there who won't be anything higher than what is our equivalent of a full time inside manager because he can't adjust and lose the UPS mentality. He isn't going to see the high side of $50k for a long time.
The success after UPS stories are becoming the exception. Not a huge market for a "numbers chaser" as was dissected in the latest thread: https://www.browncafe.com/community/threads/riding-with-drivers.338523/
It's a shame really. Our strength has always been in our people, on both sides, and I fear our house is rotting from within.
