Right to Work Laws

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by David Burkett, Dec 31, 2015.

  1. David Burkett

    David Burkett New Member

    Why is that non-members get to enjoy everything from the contract? Shouldn't it be that the healthcare, pensions, raises, etc. Is for members only?
     
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  2. David Burkett

    David Burkett New Member

    And would it be beneficial to us if we could modify right to work laws to where that stuff is for members only?
     
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  3. Lead Belly

    Lead Belly BANNED

    Pieces of crap GOP republicans started right to work in the 1940 to gut labor unions. If you make your living in a union craft the GOP is your enemy. If you aren't in The top 1% financially you are a GOP pawn if you support this. Right to work cuts everyone's pay and benefits across the board. Voting republican falls into the GOP master plan to end your way of life.
     
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  4. Method$

    Method$ Member

    RTW=economic slavery.
     
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  5. PASinterference

    PASinterference Yes, I know I'm working late.

    It's designed that way by politicians to try and starve out unions. They assume nobody would pay dues if they don't have to. I agree that they should get no union representation at all.
     
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  6. David Burkett

    David Burkett New Member

    It's presented as a freedom for union workers not to be forced to join the union. OK fine... but why is it legal for them to steal membership privileges without paying? That's like somebody being allowed to shop at Costco and get Costco prices and not paying for the membership
     
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  7. David Burkett

    David Burkett New Member

    In what specific ways is it weakening the union?
     
  8. Method$

    Method$ Member

    I seek out new hires and ask them why UPS? Benefits, want to drive, ect. Then ask/tell them to pay dues for their future and mine. Easier in a smaller center where I am. But just as important, don't wait for someone else to tell them! (Helps to be a steward and remind them you could be the one fighting for your job someday)
     
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  9. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    I agree.

    But this is America, and people have the right to be stupid.

    Just look at all the people who will vote for Hillary as an example.
     
  10. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    Less union dues.

    Less power to call an effective strike.

    Overall loss of negotiating power.
     
  11. Method$

    Method$ Member

    I'd be like UPS not being able to charge Amazon for shipping 2nd day air with us because they didn't believe in charging more for 2nd day air, but they still wanted it there in 2 days... Hurts the bottom line. If the union can't afford to put BA's out there, good minds at negotiation table, it's gonna hurt our bottom line.
     
  12. David Burkett

    David Burkett New Member

    Can we make changes to the law that gives the hourly the right not to join, but yet they won't steal out membership privileges?
     
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  13. realbrown1

    realbrown1 Annoy a liberal today. Hit them with facts.

    This is exactly what I've been saying needs to happen.
     
  14. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    The company pays all healthcare and pension contributions so your argument there is moot.

    This may surprise many but I agree that all full timers and career part times working in a union job should pay union dues. I disagree that part timers who have no intention of making this their career (college students) should be forced to pay union dues.

    It is wrong to enjoy the benefits of union membership without paying your fair share for those benefits.
     
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  15. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    You then are advocating RTW for part time employees at UPS.

    Can't have it both ways.
     
  16. NXA

    NXA Active Member

    Dues are part of the economic package, college students aren't too dumb to calculate that expense when they are deciding to work here. They also sometimes need representation, degree or no. And the best among them are your future union leadership, so let's start training them up from the gate; gifting their dues is counterproductive to that end.
     
  17. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    I am advocating RTW for ALL employees; however, I think it would be lower than low for a career hourly to accept union benefits without paying their fair share.
     
  18. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    College students work here for beer money and will be leaving once they graduate. Why gouge them?
     
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  19. Anthonysg0113

    Anthonysg0113 Active Member

    A bunch of drivers in my center started out as college students not knowing if they were going to stay or not.
     
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  20. 10 point

    10 point Well-Known Member

    Getting tuition paid is "beer money"?
    You're out of the loop.